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220vt slowly turning into a stroker, pic heavy

Postby Juizer » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:52 pm

Hello everyone,
After a long time luring around topics (specially in Projects) I decided finally to post my own. :)
This is mostly due to loxxrider and amd is the best, after seeing what you guys have accomplished I also had to reach to the sky and get myself a 20vt 200. :D

The one I managed to get my hands on (after a few tries along the years) might be one of the best around here (this might be an overstatement) as it seems to pull nicely over 2.0 bars of press (29 psi). :D
The car has had 1 owner in Germany and 3 here in Finland, 2 of them somewhat hardcore audi fanatics. I'm the third of that kind. ;)

The car has
AAN ecu in 3B engine
1.8 coils
Eagle rods
Spec stage 3+ cluch
993tt porche "big reds"
RS2 exhaust header
BN-Pipes exhaust
550 siemens deca injectors
k26/27 turbo
Bosch 044 pump in tank
LOTS of boost :twisted:
384hp/~500nm by previous owners, i'm hoping for more. ;)

I'm planning on going to vems and e85. :drive:
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby All_Euro » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:19 pm

Welcome aboard!

Sounds like you've got a great base car on your hands - post up some pics when you have time :)
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Aktapod » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:23 am

Woohoo! I love seeing new 200 projects on this forum! With all the small chassis/UrS cars, they tend to be the underdogs, but this sounds like a riot! Can't wait to see some pics.

It's kinda funny; loxxrider and amd is the best were the two who got me into the game too.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby loxxrider » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:14 am

Glad to have you here, welcome!

Also, glad my 200 was some inspiration for you. I'm sorry it hasn't progressed much lately! I hope to change that this year.

I've been in an urS4 with k27 turbo at 29 psi. It was a lot of fun. E85 and VEMS will really help you make that power and them some safely. Have fun and I look forward to more information on this car soon :)
-Chris

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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Zaworek » Sun Jan 25, 2015 11:59 am

welcome to the forum

post some pictures
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby WOMBAT » Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:02 am

Welcome! I'm VERY happy to have another silly-fast 200 in the forum!
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:50 am

Thanks for the many welcomes. :)

Currently I don't have many good pictures of the car, but I managet to find some from my phone..
These are all from last summer and the car is currently in winter storage.
(Crazy to keep quattro in winter storage, I know, but maybe next winter after some fixes..)

This one has the "USA front bumpers" which are kinda rare over here.

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Missing a trim piece from front left corner below side reflector.
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And Custom Auto Craft red rear lights of course. ;)

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The car needs some suspension and drivetrain fixes, I can hear loud bang when going from on throttle <-> off throttle.
Bangs and clunks will be dealt with once the snow is gone and I get the car on lift, I already bought some aid from 034.

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034 first aid
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Accidentaly bought new rims for this one as well from Audi Tradition. Audi OEM BBS CH028.
I might try these or sell these, not a 100% sure yet.

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Heres one bad pic from engine bay.. Needs a clean up + something more. ;)

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Can't wait to get this one back on the road. :drive: :D
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby ringbearer » Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:37 am

She is a beauty!
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby loxxrider » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:29 pm

That's a really nice looking 200. A worthy addition to the t44 mafia here at the project pad :)
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby stin » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:22 pm

Isnt this Jukkas old? It was beautiful with oz wheels :hail:

I didnt like the turbo, it was quite laggy compared what it delivered 0_o
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:43 am

Yep, this one is Jukkas old. :)

Turbo gives quite a kick, and I think it's fun. It starts to spool around 3krpm if I remember correctly..
It could be faster with more steady boost from lower rpm's, but I'm not planning to go racing with this one. :D

And I agree with the OZ wheels, they were stunning. Maybe some day... :drool:
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby AudiQuattros » Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:39 pm

that's perfect! I would like to live to see your car! need to do more foreign passport ))
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:39 pm

Got this one out of winter storage and back to garage at last.
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Some problems had arisen though, the spark had gotten lost over winter. :we:
So after checking timing marks, the pin on flywheel and all ground wires that I could find, the engine finally started. :thumbsup:
I might need to redo the wiring for the coils..

If all goes according to plan, I'll check the compression tomorrow..
This happened last fall, the reason for compression testing:
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Bosch FR5DP. :shame:
But, because I need to do the same mistakes over and over again before I learn something, I got new Bosch plugs. :foff:
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:52 am

Okay, so got the compression tested.
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So first cylinder from the timing belt is the poorest on both measurements. Oh, and the measures are in BAR.
Cyl 1 also has run on lean according to the plug, I need to get the injectors cleaned..
This might be a good excuse to get bigger injectors and more powa maybe...? :D
How far can I get with the 550cc dekas and E85?

Could the poor compression be due to the cylinder running lean for a while?
Or could I just have some clogged valves on 1 cylinder for some reason? Or..?
Leak down test might be in place here..

The destroyed Bosch plug was on cyl 4 last summer, so no clear indicators IMO from damages that the plug could have caused..
Missed a bullet there. :P
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:47 am

OK, so some update here as well...
Situation is as follows:
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And the summer is coming fast. (D'oh!)

Painted some bits and bobs, but failed miserably. :lol:
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Turns out I need to keep the hood closed from now on.. :rofl:

Found out that the radiator is busted and ordered full aluminium one from ebay.
There apparently is no alternative source for radiator/water hoses apart from 034 silicone set?

While taking radiator off I might have done some serious damage to the a/c cell in front of rad.. Now thinking to remove the whole a/c as it needs almost new everything to work properly.
Also need new washer fluid tank before taking this back to road.. The old one has turned into glass or some sort.

While taking everything apart I found out that this one is assembled mainly using drill screws and with electrical miracles as this:
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:shame: :bs:
This one has also had xenons at some point..
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But never again.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:16 am

Ok, so the wires are mostly sorted now.
Got rid of all of those horrible connections and made somewhat a harness for lights in bumper.
Might still redo the coil wires at somepoint as they seem a bit odd...

Do you guys have any hints on the waterhoses?
The 034 set seems expensive even thought it would have all the hoses...
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Marc » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:29 am

samco makes a cooling hose set.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:00 pm

I can't seem to find a set online.. Could you post a link here?
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Marc » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:57 am

http://www.samcosport.com/uk/car_kits.asp?make=Audi

part number TCS-533/C

I special ordered one for a customer, $340. available in a bunch of different colors.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:10 am

Thanks! The rs2 set ofcourse, now I feel dumb.. :oops: :D
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby yodasfro » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:48 pm

RS2 coolant hoses will not fit a 200 20v. Look at the picture in this link http://www.ebay.de/itm/Samco-Kuhlwasser ... 56723e461e
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Marc » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:01 pm

ya. true story, I completely missed this was for a 200. thanks Austin.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Juizer » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:24 am

OK, thanks. 034Motorsport hoses it is then.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby PRY4SNO » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:03 pm

Not sure if they have a set for the 3B but try Roose Motorsport in the UK. The guys on S2forum like them a lot.
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Re: 220vt from Finland

Postby Midnight » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:53 pm

PRY4SNO wrote:Not sure if they have a set for the 3B but try Roose Motorsport in the UK. The guys on S2forum like them a lot.


Their site lists 2 kits for the 3B In the S2 -
http://roosemotorsport.co.uk/index.php? ... cts_id=182
http://roosemotorsport.co.uk/index.php? ... cts_id=179

How different is the 3B setup between the S2 and the 200?
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