1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 DYNO

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1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 DYNO

Postby 955urs6 » Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:30 pm

I wanted to first, share my vehicle with you and second, update you all on the build progress.
Here is my imgur gallery of the URS6 (and M635CSi)- can't figure out how to host images on here.

http://imgur.com/a/YDsnF


I purchased the vehicle in November of 2012 in Rochester, New York and drove it home to Northern Michigan. It was originally built by Scott Justusson (qshipq on qw). He's been great with providing me info about the build and the car's history, he did a wonderful job.

The body has 193000 miles on it, but motor was rebuilt at 70k with new heat treated OEM Audi Longblock.

Mods:
Head ported, polished and race ground by Cosworth
Carillo titanium connecting rods
Swain Race coatings ceramic coated cylinder walls, valves, combustion chambers, piston tops, piston skirts, exhaust runners
RS2 EM, IM, MAF, injectors
RS2 7200 Competition turbo with enlarged hotside and upgraded compressor wheel
911TT calipers & rotors
MTM Stage 3 3 bar tune (380bhp)
Custom hypoallergenic (catless) 3" exhaust
01E 6 speed w/ B5 RS4 knob
Fidanza lightweight flywheel
Front mount oil cooler
South Bend Stage 3 clutch

I also own a 1985 M635CSi with a Dinan Stroker (3.92L stage 3, 360hp), so the URS6 build is being built. Can't have a BMW being faster than it!

Marc Swanson of EFI Express is building the car and I am ecstatic. He has spent hours of his time on the phone with me over the past few months, helped arrange shipping and I cannot say enough great things about his customer service.

The goals of this build are for 500+ whp on E85 with as near stock spool as possible.

The Build
Iroz Motorsports EFR 7163 kit (T4, .84 a/r Twin Scroll, integral wastegate, BOV, frequency valve) with Quick Spool Valve
Iroz 3" downpipe
Iroz equal length tubular manifold
Turbo hotside, downpipe and manifold Swain White Lightning coated
VEMS ECU
Bosch Wideband
Zeitronix eca-2 ethanol content analyzer (flexfuel)
FID-1200cc injectors
In Tank Bosch 044 fuel pump
Apikol FMIC

Glad to be a part of this community! Please share your thoughts, comments and experiences.
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1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby ringbearer » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:59 pm

Welcome! I thought the Ti rods were a typo when I saw the ad for your car. Glad you found your way here.
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby loxxrider » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:02 pm

That was a money-is-no-object build for someone at some point. You have a really great base to start from. What you're going to do to it will do it complete justice! Welcome. I know we will all be looking forward to more of this.
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby Marc » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:00 pm

Welcome Cameron.

I picked up your car from Haydn's place on Friday. your parts came back from swain the same day. everybody loves a little pornography:

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this one came out a bit fuzzy, sorry. maybe its already trying to go fast?

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baseline'd the car on the dyno today as well.

next up we'll pull apart the manifold and turbo and start the install process. might take a bit as we are slammed right now but I'll keep ya posted.

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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby PRY4SNO » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:42 pm

This is going to be good. Welcome! Looking forward to updates.
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby chaloux » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:19 pm

Damn, Marc out of nowhere. Awesome! That baseline is not too bad, not very much boost it seems like. But it looks like a very strong place to start from! I can't wait to see the "after" graph... and especially interested on how the QSV performs on this setup. Glad you're here!
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby audifreakjim » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:46 pm

It's going to rip
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:23 pm

Marc,

About what I expected from the dyno. Glad to see it is so low. Going to feel great with 200 more whp. I bet we can even improve on the spool. Hope the clutch can handle it. The e-brake is nonfunctional as well. Excited to see this progress!

PRY4SNO, how do you like your 7163 and the swain coatings? I know you are on a stroker, but with qsv should be close to your experience.

Thanks for input guys.
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby PRY4SNO » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:51 pm

955urs6 wrote:PRY4SNO, how do you like your 7163 and the swain coatings? I know you are on a stroker, but with qsv should be close to your experience.

Thanks for input guys.


I haven't had the time/space to do the install. It's my winter project now that my garage is sorted and finally have the car at home.

I'm expecting full spool from 3500 all the way to 8500 (IF I go that high) on pump gas. It'll be pretty awesome to see yours with the spool valve. I didn't coat the turbo hot side on Hank's recommendation, but I figure that the coating on the header and downpipe will work wonders with heat management in the cramped coupe engine bay.
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:00 am

PRY4SNO, I will be sure to post everything on here. Used to be on QW/MG but pp is way more interesting.

I also negated to include a few more details about the car above:

Suspension
Linear Coil Overs in Rear with 9" barrel springs in front, Bilstein Sport shocks (just replaced)

Interior:

All seats were replaced with 1992 units as they had the thickest leather.
PO also spent $2300 blacking out all exterior chrome trim with OEM euro shadowline replacements.
Restored whole interior with leatherique prestine clean and rejuvenator (40+ hours). Will see if I can find any pictures.
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 4wheelsoffury » Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:57 pm

Don't forget videos, I have a 7163 kit coming too!
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby chaloux » Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:01 pm

Yeeeeessss. Need vids! Lots of nice projects these days but no media!
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04 Jetta TDI - DC stage I clutch/14lb fw
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:39 pm

I apologize for the ignorance but I cannot figure out how to imbed a photo or video without linking to outside source. I may not have the permissions. I at least have an exhaust video (decatted with tiny magnaflow). Im sure Marc will serve up some media for us once build starts.
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby PRY4SNO » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:11 pm

To imbed a photo, type [img]and%20the%20url%20for%20the%20photo%20here[/img].

Videos seem to need a different approach based on their respective host websites. I'm sure someone else can explain them in greater detail.
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:38 am

It's the permissions then, I'll take care of it with mods. Not allowing me to imbed photo/video still.
Here is a video of the exhaust once it was warmed up, iphone camera but better than nothing. Exhaust does not drone which was my main priority. 3" catless stainless exhaust by Lovefab with tiny magnaflow muffler.

https://youtu.be/ebqC89IL4q8
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby chaloux » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:28 am

That sounds great! Like dad's 3" catless single magnaflow... So raspy
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04 Jetta TDI - DC stage I clutch/14lb fw
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DEAD :( - 1996 S6 mit TDI
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby mushasho » Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:51 pm

955urs6 wrote:Head ported, polished and race ground by Cosworth


When a build thread starts off like this, you know it's gonna be good...
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby loxxrider » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:13 am

mushasho wrote:
955urs6 wrote:Head ported, polished and race ground by Cosworth


When a build thread starts off like this, you know it's gonna be good...


Exactly!
-Chris

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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:45 pm

All,

Marc has been a busy bee-

Borg Warner EFR7163 .84a/r TS w/ QSV is installed - Swaintec White Lightning Coated Hotside, mani and dp
Iroz Header/DP installed
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Apikol FMIC installed
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VEMS is in
External oil cooler is relocated to original airbox location
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Up next is the fueling upgrades (E85 w/ Zeitronix ethanol content analyzer, gauge, Bosch 044 in tank) and possibly a new clutch (HOPEFULLY NOT)

BONUS: w/ its' brother the 360hp 3.92L M635CSi (Dinan stage 2 stroker motor), cosmetically all original
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1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby ringbearer » Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:26 pm

It's getting close!
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 2.5TYPE44 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:38 pm

I like the coating and I know you'll love the qsv. How many degrees is the coating good for?
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby PRY4SNO » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:19 pm

From Swain's website:

"The melting point of White Lightning™ is over 3,000°F and there are applications where the coating would stay completely intact at temperatures well above temperatures that can be reached on exhaust parts. However, what can damage our coating or any coating, no matter what the “temperature rating” is would be if the base metal of there is a differential of expansion between the base metal and the coating greater than what any coating can expand."
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:59 pm

PRY4SNO, how do you like your Swain coatings? Is the stroker in yet? Excited to see how your build goes.
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby 955urs6 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:51 am

Car is being dynoed as we speak- should be ~500whp/tq if clutch holds.

I need your guys' help with a clutch choice. I have a lightweight Fidanza flywheel and would like to keep it with my new clutch (if needed). Spec says their stage 5 will hold 485wtq which is a little low so I think I have to go for a Tilton twin disk (I would like not to have to change the clutch if I up the power).

Does anyone know what Tilton or other clutch that would hold 500+/500+ would be compatible and as street-driveable as possible?

Thanks!
1995.5 Audi S6- EFR7163 ts w/ qsv, Iroz mani/dp,vems, e85. Ti rods, 01E 6sp (in progress)
2003 Audi A4 3.0 6M, 225k
1985 BMW M635CSi, Dinan 3.92L stroker 360hp
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Re: 1995.5 URS6 EFR 7163 w/ QSV, E85 Build

Postby audifreakjim » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:30 am

I run a sachs 707 PP and a spec stage 3+ sprung disk. It's full face, so the disk is kind of heavy. It is totally street able. Holding 630 wheel tq at the moment, although if I miss a shift and engage it off the rev limiter it will slip so it's near the end of its range. No need to go dual disk at this level. Those are not street friendly at all!

I ordered mine through 034, but Sounthend offers the same PP and similar disks that marc gets. I'd go 6 puck sprung if I had it to do over.
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