Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT project

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby 85oceanic » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:51 am

Ok, that Taxi Switch is bad ass. Progress is looking awesome man, hope you can make it out here for BBQ!
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby gabriel.b » Thu May 24, 2018 8:08 am

What motor is your truck? Mine is the 3.5 ecoboost and its awesome
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby Grillage » Thu May 24, 2018 8:12 am

gabriel.b wrote:What motor is your truck? Mine is the 3.5 ecoboost and its awesome

3.6 ecoboost - it’s great
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby Grillage » Thu May 24, 2018 12:21 pm

3.5 I mean!
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby Grillage » Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:43 pm

So I drove the car to Carlisle - 1100 miles all told. Other than the AC condensate line getting plugged briefly about 2 hours into the ride everything went great!

So naturally, it's time to pull the engine and put this fella in there!
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First the exhaust got shat out the back:
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Then the engine was pulled - had some fun with the gopro on this one:


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Shocking how clean the rear main seal was behind the flywheel:
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Then I rolled it out and powerwashed the mofo

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Subframe is pretty too!
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I sold my Maserati this last week so some of the funds are going toward this project.

I ordered a Jetex Cat back exhaust from the UK this week:
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performa ... -tailpipes

and also have an AZC 4.11 B4 locking rear diff to work with the 01E 6 speed on the way from Latvia

So now the next step is to take out the dash and start on the wiring and integration of the AAN harness

Also am going to mock up the AAN in place and see how the motor mount brackets will get welded in (I have sections of cut frames from a CQ with the proper brackets).
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby PRY4SNO » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:15 pm

Rare how clean that 12v is, and then ironic that it's getting pulled for a swap.
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro - Project FunkTaxi

Postby vt10vt » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:30 pm

Grillage wrote:and also have an AZC 4.11 B4 locking rear diff to work with the 01E 6 speed on the way from Latvia

THAT is a very cool detail I didn't even know existed! Good work, new garage looks like it makes it especially enjoyable.
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:52 am

I got the AAN in place today to see how the motor mounts would work. On page one of this thread alxdgr8 and Mcstiff were talking about whether the stock B4 mounts would work. They damn near do!

Heres some pics:

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Heres the passenger's side:
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It is REALLY close. I am going to make some 12mm spacers and longer bolts - M10x1.5x130MM would work. That will push the mount out from the frame enough to hit the bracket dead center.

Then the drivers side was pretty far off with the C4 brackets on:

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So I put on a CQ 7A mount and its way closer:
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I think I should be able to modify the 7a arm and make it work. Reinforce it and widen the window for the bolt.

I need to put the downpipe and turbo etc. all on there and make sure the arms aren't interfering with anything before I commit but this is a good development.

I do realize that this will make the radiator mounting more difficult but I will deal with that as I get there.
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:51 pm

Some more mockup - now with the turbo and the Downpipe that Marc made:

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Sparkyjack » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:15 am

So when’s BBQ?
At this rate ... hmm.

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:00 am

I'd be shocked. This is all just mockup - Still need to wire and really do the install work. figure out cooling etc.

on the other hand, drinking beer and working in my new garage sure is a nice way to spend a summer evening
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby A1QSHIP » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:06 am

Staying serpentine belt drive?
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:27 am

Not too sure yet. I want to keep AC and I want to keep a stock radiator location. I think the only way to do that is to go V belts but I'm still working on that one
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby A1QSHIP » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:16 am

I'm thinking leave the compressor where it is on the AAN, use the V6 radiator,a/c condenser, & make custom a/c lines. The front engine snubber mount will be close to the fans & radiator. The fans will most likely need to be relocated. My 0.2 cents.
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:35 am

I've got a 7a fan and radiator as well as the v6 stuff. I'll see how it all goes together. AC is a must eventually. I want this thing as stock seeming and comfy as possible
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Mcstiff » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:43 pm

Wow that is close! Seems like ze Germans are trolling us!!

I'd take a look at ScubaDave's CQ for front mount rad ideas: http://theprojectpad.org/viewtopic.php? ... 3db7b4e6d0
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Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Afterthought » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:10 pm

ooooh that turbo. Nice.

on the front clearance, the serpentine will give you more room overall due to serp. crank pulley being shorter.

The V-belt pulley sticks out farther. so it robs space down below.
HOWEVER If you were to modify brackets and locate all of your accessories down low, and do V-belts you'd have more space up top because there is nothing but the timing belt. This is what I did in my URQ to fit a front mount in it.
This should kind of illustrate . This red line is where my power steering pulley is. Above the red line I have the most possible space but below it I have very little space . It works good with the forward intake and core support that I can’t remove but if I had a removable core support or a B3/B4 I’d do serpentine . I just did this so I didn’t have to cut the car .
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:27 pm

This is all helpful - thanks Gentlemen!

Here's a view with the S2 cross pipe installed. Not a whole heck of a lot of room for a front radiator:

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Afterthought » Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:17 am

Is there a reason you want to avoid the side radiator ?

In my 4000 with a front mount it was using a B2 4000 fwd rad I’m pretty sure (came that way , sweet setup)
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:45 pm

Afterthought wrote:Is there a reason you want to avoid the side radiator ?


I'm not necessarily avoiding either front mount or side mount - I just want to get AC and I haven't seen any small chassis cars with a five cyinder, AC and a front mount radiator. I'm open to anything.

Either way, It's time for me to tackle the wiring and put these decisions on the back burner for a bit.

Hoping to pull the dash and harness this weekend and start integrating the AAN harness to the B4
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Afterthought » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:20 pm

Roger that ping if you need help with the harness I’ve done it a couple times .
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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT - motor mount fitting

Postby Grillage » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:32 pm

Will do! Thanks!

I mated an ABZ harness to run VEMS on my old Coupe Quattro so I should be okay.

Plus these things really help:

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT project

Postby Grillage » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:58 am

More progress the last couple days

Got the dash out over the weekend and yesterday finally got the Airbox out too.

I continue to be shocked at how clean this car is. The airbox foam is even still good.

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Next is to pull the harness and mark what is removed from the car that is not engine related. Then work that all back to the AAN harness and wire the end to the VEMS Econoseal connector


Meanwhile, some KILLER stuff at the local Concours show here in Cincinnati this weekend:

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT project

Postby themagellan » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:21 pm

I recovered an old email just to log in to say how impressed I always am with your work and dedication. The V8 was really cool and raw, this is going to be even better.

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Re: Ben's 95 90 Quattro 20vT project

Postby Grillage » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:46 pm

themagellan wrote:I recovered an old email just to log in to say how impressed I always am with your work and dedication. The V8 was really cool and raw, this is going to be even better.

:beer:


Thanks! You'll have to come back to Carlisle next year to see it!
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