The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Getter

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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby the german » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:35 pm

wow, I'm impressed you have that kind of room to play with. What does the steering rack setup in the quantum look like?
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:16 pm

the german wrote:wow, I'm impressed you have that kind of room to play with. What does the steering rack setup in the quantum look like?


It's similar to a 4000. I'd bet identical. it's been a real long time since I've looked, but I'll have to see. I know there will be fitment issues somewhere along the line once I try to do this. I'm just going to have to work around it, but I know it's doable.
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:18 am

So I checked out the steering rack situation on the quantum last night to see how far I could shove the engine back without having to modify the steering rack's location and the answer is not as much as I want. It looks to me that there is maybe 1" - 1.5" max before I'll run into issues with the bell housing touching the rack. So I'll start figuring a solution that I can attempt to implement in the future.
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby ringbearer » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:44 pm

Cut the bellhousing? Don’t know how far you can stuff the rack into it before you hit the clutch though
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby the german » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:48 pm

yeah that is what I was thinking would be the case. From a weight distribution perspective it's not generally worth the effort unless you can get things back 4-6", but if you need the space up front to fit a radiator that 1.5" may be pretty valuable.
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby PRY4SNO » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:02 pm

Easy solution: 07k.

Bang, instant 3" clearance gained.

You're welcome ;)
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:51 am

ringbearer wrote:Cut the bellhousing? Don’t know how far you can stuff the rack into it before you hit the clutch though

That's a possibility, but I'm not sure where the clutch will be either. It may not be worth it. I looked at it again. I may try to retrofit a different rack in there. Possibly opt for something a little more responsive than the stock Audi rack.

the german wrote:yeah that is what I was thinking would be the case. From a weight distribution perspective it's not generally worth the effort unless you can get things back 4-6", but if you need the space up front to fit a radiator that 1.5" may be pretty valuable.

Yeah, I mean I'd love to stuff it back that far, but that's more work than my desired 3 inches back. But if I can get it the 3" back then it should provide me with the room to mount a sufficient intercooler and radiator.

PRY4SNO wrote:Easy solution: 07k.

Bang, instant 3" clearance gained.

You're welcome ;)

Damn you and your good ideas. Even though swapping in an 07k is a pretty extensive process in itself, but it is a way better engine.. Maybe you threw a wrench in everything I had planned
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby the german » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:00 pm

PRY4SNO wrote:Easy solution: 07k.

Bang, instant 3" clearance gained.

You're welcome ;)



Define "easy".... ;)
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:57 am

Did a little bit of poking around in the engine compartment. I've determined that the rack itself is not the issue with stuffing the engine back 3 inches. It's the bracket that bolts to the rack that the tie rods bolt to. This picture of a URQ shows what I'm talking about. I've got about 1.5" give or take a little bit before the bell housing will hit that bracket. I think all I need to do is change that up, maybe make a set of tie rods to accommodate that change and then I should be in the clear.

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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:17 pm

Started working on the throttle linkage. I figured that the linkage from a set of dual Weber DCOE carbs mounted on it's side would be a good place to start. I just need to make the bracket to hold this in place. I can't decide if I want to weld it in place or make the whole bracket removable from the intake. I'll probably make it removable though.
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Also, in far more exciting news than the throttle linkage, I got in contact with Jeff for one of his billet cranks so this engine will be receiving a 77.4mm billet crank from Jeff and likely a set of his pistons. Now I just have to get on the horn with Pauter for a set of rods.
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby PRY4SNO » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:44 pm

Bolt-on/removable linkages make the most sense to me.

So you're de-stroking the engine? For higher revs, similar to what Chris/dramarider intends?
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Re: The 20vt Quantum Syncro Wagon - The Group B Grocery Gett

Postby dougkehl » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:26 am

Yes, destroking for higher revs and because for some reason since I got the car I wanted to go the opposite way from most who opt to go to 2.5L and drop it down to 2.0L. But at first I think this thing will only be turning 8300 to 8500 or so rpm.. I know the stock oil pump can flow well enough up to that point. I'm not fully prepared to go with a dry sump oil set up yet, but I figure if I build everything accordingly it will then only be a matter of making the dry sump oil system fit into the car.
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