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Re: Operation 686

Postby the german » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:23 pm

Good progress update; the rocker panel and quarter panel look good!
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Re: Operation 686

Postby Nateflix56 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:22 am

^^^ x2 on both of Pry's points

My neighbor is doing a full resto on an old AMX. He borrowed a setup from a friend of his who did exactly that. Looks to be done using 2 engine hoists and 2 engine stands. I helped him mount it up, took a little finessing without a lift but should be a breeze for you.
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Re: Operation 686

Postby Afterthought » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:19 am

Looks like the engine hoist setup is pretty good .
I was kicking around the idea . Shop time is limited so 2 days to cut and weld one up is worth something but so is 1,300+. I figured if I could get one for 1000 shipped it would make sense to buy and hope that I could recoup half of the cost after I’m done maybe ?
I was looking around on places like HAMB and saw a few from engine stands and it looks like the cherry picker setup is better , because I’d have the jacks to raise and lower . So if I got two of those and then used the metal I already have (rectangular tubing that I bought pre-tariff ) so I think all I would need is some extra wheels , heavy duty metal casters or something .

I have seen Craig’s build but it’s always nice to look through it again. Not planning to do them but I have always wondered about those “ A2 reinforcement channels“ he put on there and what they do for handling . Looks like quite a bit of stiffness added.

The rockers came out ok but I need to figure it how to butt them together and weld on the bottom. The one is just welded on top and tacked on bottom. It’s almost like I need the whole piece from pinch weld to pinch weld for it to look perfect .
I have seen that AM cars makes them but they are L295 and some lead time . I wouldn’t mind the cost if they were perfect but never seen or heard of anyone that has run them and can comment on the fitment .
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Operation 686

Postby Afterthought » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:44 pm

Good parts haul today ... I have acquired many of he crucial parts I need to make everything right .
Lower trunk area , not a perfect fit but a great start , got both sides
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Front fender bolting area and triangle brace
Both sides as well
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Re: Operation 686

Postby the german » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:47 pm

Now the fun starts!
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Re: Operation 686

Postby vt10vt » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:49 pm

Looking good, giving me inspiration for my next project, hope to see more updates soon!
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Re: Operation 686

Postby ringbearer » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:43 pm

Those “scraps” are gold, nice score! Take your time cutting everything to fit, no
Easy way to measure just cut and size it up.
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Re: Operation 686

Postby Afterthought » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:45 pm

the german wrote:Now the fun starts!

This is when the fun will start, once I get the glass out and it is upside down or on its side . Ha . But I need to figure out how to brace the car if it needs any sort of bracing added
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Definitely a score on the parts . I was stoked to find them ! Most importantly I can make those parts but I can’t make those parts perfect stock, I don’t think, so better to go for an OEM fit and finish - I see it as worth the extra effort to source them and do it right
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Re: Operation 686

Postby FFF » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:43 pm

Looking good - I can’t even dream about this type of project until the kids are off of the payroll...
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Re: Operation 686

Postby the german » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:13 pm

sweet!! that rotisserie looks nice
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Re: Operation 686

Postby PRY4SNO » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:22 pm

^^^ agreed, and if you want to add bracing, t-bar or angle-iron is usually a good starting point.
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Re: Operation 686

Postby Afterthought » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:32 am

So I have all the parts I need to get started with what I’m doing , but need to figure out the proper way to get the car on the rotisserie so I can fully clean off the undercoating .
Not looking forward to that but it needs to be done for it to be fixed right .

My intention was to remove the 3 studs on the front where the bumper shock mounts . I made a plate to fit that area. However, I am now thinking maybe I should use the subframe bolt holes as the main mounting points and run a brace up to the bumper mount instead. Don’t know if anyone has done this before , but where did you pick up the car and where did you add support or bracing if needed?

I am looking at the front and thinking I will use rectangular 1.5 “ steel to run straight to the subframe mounting bolt holes .

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Re: Operation 686

Postby lorge1989 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:25 am

I've never done this before, but if you were to tie the subrame holes together across the car I think that would be plenty. I'm thinking just two rectangular tubes with 2 holes and 2 bushing welded in to prevent the chassis from twisting. The long direction of the car never had any type of brace on the road, so you would think it would be stiff enough. Just a guess.
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Re: Operation 686

Postby vt10vt » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:09 am

I built a rotisserie for my old MK2 and bolted straight to the bumper mounting points and that didn't seem to cause any issues even with the car sitting in it for ~3yrs. All of the SQ replica guys seem to prefer subframe mounting points, although I think that's mostly to make the shortening process easier. Subframe mounts will get in the way of stripping undercoating, so I'd be tempted to keep the points you've already built.
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Re: Operation 686

Postby Afterthought » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:55 pm

Still working on this when I can .
I have the rotisserie set up right now but I’m still at somewhat of a sticking point with the rockers.
I really wanted to purchase some so I could go from Seam to Seam but I just can’t find anywhere that makes it . Even if I could get a full replacement from Audi tradition I would .

Next step is to pull out the fuel tank and rear subframe , etc before I can rotate or do anything with it .
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These are the attempts so far with the rockers .

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Driver’s side
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Passenger side in place but bottom is tacked not fully welded .
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I guess what I have to do is see if I can go this route and get them perfect or otherwise keep looking around . It’s a difficult piece .


Also snagged a parts car . It’s fwd Auto but still turbo (MC) so I can use this engine and some of the wiring or sensors as spares
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