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Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:00 am
by cuatrokoop
ShavedQuattro wrote:I say you get Weldon to send you two sets of front urS6 fenders. Cut the flares off the front and put them on the right sides. Then I say you cut off the other front sets, and flop them left to right in the rear, effectively turning them around. Weld em on, or bond them. Those flares are huge. I think they are probably bigger then even the a6's.
Eric, you are talking v6 flares, not v8 ones. The v8 a6 cars came with 255-40-17s on 8" wide wheels. These are usually 25.4" tall wheels...
Yes, true, but the wheel well isn't that much larger on the V8 cars. Pretty much any fender will require work to use it's flare for various reasons. Even flares from a B4 will require a decent amount of work to fit on a B3. I'd do steel, since you'd already have to cut part of the factory "flare" off the car to make room for wider tires anyway...
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:11 am
by gruppe5
Maybe you could try getting some Allroad plastic arches to try fitment.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:43 am
by audifreakjim
ShavedQuattro wrote:Check out what the Tire Rack says about the 255's on 8" wide wheels that they always condemn.
Audi mounts a 255/40-17 tire on the 17x8 wheel. Most tire companies suggest using a 8.5 - 10.0 width rim. We will also allow 8" rims to be sold using the 255/40 tire.
Does anybody know the oem tire that came on the a6 4.2?
My OEM Spare is a 255/40-17
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:33 pm
by calunamn
Jim,
I noticed Zerb mentioned our airbox (Spectre). Since you are local to me if you need any intake components let me know. I'm in Anaheim now, so a lot closer than I used to be in Corona.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:13 am
by Mcstiff
Did somebody say wide front and rear wings?
http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48263Why do the things I want come up when I cannot haz?
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:46 pm
by ChrisAudi80
You can haz cheezburger though...
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:54 pm
by a_CQ
You can fit 255 tires under the CQ with some flaring of the fenders. With the perfect offset and 9" wheel I will bet you can fit 265 if not 275 series tires.
Jim, if you go to even CQ width levels I think you will be happy enough with 255 tires. I mean how much wider do you really need for a primarily street car? You are better off spending money on reallly good sticky rubber than buying cheap Kumhos and going as wide as you can. I'm sure you know this, you've tracked the car enough to realize potentials of quality tire.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:59 pm
by Mcstiff
ChrisAudi80 wrote:You can haz cheezburger though...

Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:41 pm
by Spike_Rally
I vote B4 or even URS. I cut out the rear flares out of a B4 with the intention of grafting them onto my 80 but I decided my B3 just wasn't quite worth all the work. Your car, on the other hand, would look amazing widebody and possibly resprayed imola yellow?
URS on a coupe:

Or you could go for a time attack look and do rivet on flares like Timmy did on the S4K, that would look mean.

Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:03 pm
by Mcstiff
If a CQ can run 265s with KWs (modified arms) why not do that first? You should be able to fit <=265s under your front B4 flairs and get close in the rear.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:51 pm
by Hank
Spike_Rally wrote:I vote B4 or even URS. I cut out the rear flares out of a B4 with the intention of grafting them onto my 80 but I decided my B3 just wasn't quite worth all the work. Your car, on the other hand, would look amazing widebody and possibly resprayed imola yellow?
URS on a coupe:
Any more pictures of the b3 with urS flares on it?
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:08 pm
by audifreakjim
Thanks for the pics of the urS fenders, I have a few on the way so this seems to be the best option at this point.
Peter, this is not any different than the rest of the car, I mean I have a completely obnoxious motor, why not go with obnoxious wheels and tires under huge flares?

I agree that 255's would be a huge improvement, and that is likely where I will end up at first, but if I am going to go through the pain of flaring the rear, I want to be able to fit something even wider. I have moved on from street tires and have run R compounds at the last three events

I still have a ways to go as a driver, but the feedback from more than a few instructors who have been in the car is it really needs wider tires, and I can't agree more.
Ed,on the B3 the absolute widest tire you can put in the rear is a 235, and it still rubs on the highest load corners.
My car will never be Imolla! I am going to go with the color on the front of the car. Fresh LY1A (Ginster) with Clear

Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:13 pm
by Mcstiff
audifreakjim wrote:Ed,on the B3 the absolute widest tire you can put in the rear is a 235, and it still rubs on the highest load corners.
Is that with the stock arms?
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:02 pm
by audifreakjim
Yep, stock arms. What are you thinking?
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:25 pm
by Mcstiff
Rotate the arms (like KWs) and run more offset.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:27 pm
by SEStone
You can't on the rear

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Sam
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:28 pm
by Mcstiff
I guess I'm missing something are they not in the way?
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:30 pm
by a_CQ
You know, you do have a point there...if you have to modify th erear then might as well make room fo rmore, even if you don't use it, it will make fitting 255s a LOT more comfortably..
Have you thought about Reiger flares? Not even sure this stuff is still made?


Definetely looks like 255+size tire...

Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:31 pm
by audifreakjim
The arms are cast into the bearing housing so they are not going anywhere. Unless of course I put front struts in the rear, and rotated the arms in, then I could have 4 wheel steering!
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:35 pm
by audifreakjim
Now we are talking, those are definitely more than 255! They look even wider than 275's.
I will get the 255's and the fat 5's on the car once I get the S2 hubs on go from there. I like the way the green car looks from the rear, but the side profile is blah.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:36 pm
by a_CQ
And the coupe rear flares...with some work they could look real good..

Last thing, remember that Coupe with e46 M3 fender flares? That looked hoot, but I always lose the pics of that.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:51 pm
by Mcstiff
Ah! Coupe rear housings or fronts in the rear?
Anyway, I was checking out a Reiger Coupé the other night. Its also cool that they eliminated the rubber lower trim. The bumper is meh but has ~4" to the crank pulley.
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:02 am
by Derracuda
Mcstiff wrote:If a CQ can run 265s with KWs (modified arms) why not do that first? You should be able to fit <=265s under your front B4 flairs and get close in the rear.
not so much on the rear... B3 flares are narrower than on a 4kq, and i've pushed the limits on that with 235's that were a bit too tall. flares are the only solution unfortunately
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:13 am
by Mcstiff
Not well versed on these B3s

You don't want / need a lot of rubber in the rear of front engined understeering pig.

The MTM RSR was 265/35R17 F and 235/45R17 R!
Re: Jim Green's 90 20vt + PTE5857 + Meth = 472++whp
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:50 am
by cuatrokoop
Agree....You could run 245-255's up front and a 225-235 out back and possibly get some neutrality along with some suspension tweaking (spring and damper rates) that won't give you snap O.S. Something to think about.