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Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:08 am
by amd is the best
What compression ratio?
Re: Matt's 87 4k - 2.3l AAN, VEMS, GTX30r, and coilovers
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:11 am
by ringbearer
quattro87 wrote:ringbearer wrote:Get the right rings, don't skimp now
Coming from someone named ringbearer I think I'd have to agree. Get a set of the proper rings for the pistons.
Ha! Good point
Looking good man, you're getting close!
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq -
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:26 am
by chaloux
amd is the best wrote:What compression ratio?
8.5:1. Boooooooost. I'm hoping to get it to Brady before Carlisle, but if not I might get some knock phones from Marc to do a little timing work myself.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:37 pm
by chaloux
Ugh, accidentally deleted a post.
Anyway, block and head are both assembled. Block with clutch and everything ready to go, head minus valve cover (obviously) and throttle body etc.
I think I'm going to approach the build by installing the block tomorrow. Then I'll hook up everything, plumbing, electrical etc... and then install the head and turbo when I get them in the mail from Hank.
Here's where I'm at. Head:

Block 1

Block 2

Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:52 pm
by loxxrider
Ew, you should do something with that intake manifold tomorrow instead of installing the block lol
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:54 pm
by ringbearer
I was thinking the same thing, It may bug you down the road but I know all about not having enough time to do it exactly how you want to.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:58 pm
by chaloux
LOL. Yeah... It's actually really easy to install without the guides, so I could rip it out at any time without much drama. I don't even really know why they had the guides in the first place based on how easy it went in. Just one 6mm allen with a ball end.
I'll paint it black just for you, Chris.
But seriously, I'd have to grind it down a bit, somehow get all the fucking absorbed-into-the-pores crinkle paint off, and then paint it again. If I can just soak it in something I might tackle it. If I have to scrape it all off, no way josé.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:58 pm
by EDIGREG
Grind that shit down and paint it
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:59 pm
by EDIGREG
chaloux wrote:But seriously, I'd have to grind it down a bit, somehow get all the fucking absorbed-into-the-pores crinkle paint off, and then paint it again. If I can just soak it in something I might tackle it. If I have to scrape it all off, no way josé.
Media. Blaster.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:00 am
by ringbearer
Grind smooth, bead blast all the chit off and then blow all the media out of it for a really long time so none gets in Ur new moter
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:06 am
by chaloux
sigh... such perfectionists
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:09 am
by ringbearer
I didn't mention the board sander

Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:24 am
by loxxrider
I'd blast it if I had a blast cabinet, but if I didn't and was in a rush I'd probably just throw it on like you are probably going to do. I don't blame you, I'd want to be driving that thing too!

Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:26 am
by chaloux
That's how I feel. But I'll have a go at it tomorrow. We have some gasket stripper and other stuff around that'll kill ya, so why not. I'll at the very least grind down the fugly welds and if the wrinkle doesn't come off, POR over everything.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:33 am
by chaloux
Oh, one other thing I should mention. So far the fit of the STR manifold has been pretty good. I did have to grind down a teensy bit of the wg-manifold connection to get the two to sit pretty, but other than that it's been great. As Hank mentioned in the other thread, I guess we'll see when it comes to installing the downpipe.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq -
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 am
by amd is the best
chaloux wrote:amd is the best wrote:What compression ratio?
8.5:1. Boooooooost. I'm hoping to get it to Brady before Carlisle, but if not I might get some knock phones from Marc to do a little timing work myself.
Soooo pansy

. I <3 compression! 9.5 or 10 for my build...whenever it happens.

Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:57 am
by EDIGREG
10:1 or higher + E85 FTW
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:01 am
by SEStone
My issue with the STR manifold was that the compressor housing hit the runners. I'm running an old T3/T4 so the housing may be a bit bigger, but the turbo flange doesn't really sit proud of the log at all so it makes an issue. I had Hank make me a 1/2" thick spacer, which put the turbo REALLLY close to the frame rail. It works fine, but that definitely screwed everything up as far as 'perfect fitment'.
Also, none of the holes were drilled square with their flanges, so I had to run bolts instead of studs since I wouldn't have been able to bolt on the turbo especially with the spacer and longer studs on there.
Sam
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:05 am
by loxxrider
Same thing with 034's log manifold. I just put a 3/8 spacer in there and it worked great.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:11 am
by amd is the best
My compressor cover damn near hits the stock manifold. I clocked it a tiny bit clockwise so it didn't touch.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:12 am
by amd is the best
EDIGREG wrote:10:1 or higher + E85 FTW
This guys knows whats up

Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:13 am
by chaloux
I kind of see e85 as a short term thing. I don't think it's going to be around for too long - the subsidies are already stopping. How long before it's more expensive than gas, and then how long before it stops being sold because the idea that it's not green catches on? I'd like to still be driving this thing in ten years or so with the same setup I have now/will have soon.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:14 am
by chaloux
Don't get me wrong, if it was available I'd use it but I wouldn't go to the extent of changing the fuel lines for it.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:21 am
by amd is the best
The car would also run fine on pump fuel at 9.5 or 10:1 without an issue

I've ran 28psi on 93 octane at stock 9.3 even without an upgraded intercooler.
Also, fuel line need not be changed. Or at least mine haven't been negatively affected to date.
Re: Matt's 87 4ktq - "4 FOX SNAKES"
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:33 am
by ringbearer
I agree with you on the availability of E85 in the long run, I don't have any close to me so it's not an issue for me but many people will be bummed when the price goes up and it gets harder to find. You know like when your dealer gets busted
