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Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:49 pm
by Mcstiff
I'll post a picture tomorrow :P When time is scarce I'd rather not be forced to redo something.

I'll test fire it earlier but the intake and exhaust have to come apart for gaskets. I hope to drive it Monday (open DP lol).

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:56 pm
by loxxrider
That looks HOT.

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:50 am
by a_CQ
You'll test fire it without gaskets? Why?

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:06 am
by Cqt
a_CQ wrote:you're thinking too much. Just hook it up and run it already!



:)

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:49 am
by Mcstiff
a_CQ wrote:You'll test fire it without gaskets? Why?

I'm not assembling it to test fire I'm assembling it to make sure everything fits together and to finish the intercooler plumbing. Once I finish assembly it will be difficult to not test fire it ;) It's not going to hurt anything and if I need to fix something it's not a waste of gaskets :shrug:

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:34 am
by loxxrider
lol I'd do the same thing I think. I keep firing my car up even though the plumbing isn't done. I just like to let 'er run!

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:01 am
by a_CQ
Install gaskets and make misc stuff fit. I don't think you'd waste gaskets...they won't be destroyed if you have to take something off right away and then put it back on. You can keep starting it to just hear it run but you're just eating your bearings away with all the cold starts. If stuff fits, toss the gaskets on and drive it. :shrug: :)

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:14 am
by loxxrider
Its definitely true that your gaskets will be fine. I do it all the time.

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:32 pm
by Mcstiff
I'm sure it would be fine, at this point the time to take it apart for gaskets will be the same as waiting. Still hoping to drive it Monday.

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:35 pm
by Mcstiff
Just snapped an EM stud off in the head it must have been injured previously :banghead:

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:36 pm
by Hank
What is taking so long? :)

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:55 pm
by Quattro v1.0
Mcstiff wrote:Just snapped an EM stud off in the head it must have been injured previously :banghead:


:slap:

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:00 pm
by Mcstiff
I think I'm taking the afternoon/evening off. I was all gung ho this morning but had an appointment, 3 stops on my way home, and now I need to extract this sob. No sense getting pissed and breaking it worse.

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:02 pm
by a_CQ
How do you snap off a stud mounting EM?? Overtorqued it?

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:40 pm
by Quattro v1.0
ShavedQuattro wrote:What is taking so long? :)


Hank coulda' did this whole swap in a weekend. What 's up Ed?

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:55 pm
by Mcstiff
a_CQ wrote:How do you snap off a stud mounting EM?? Overtorqued it?

I was putting on the gasket and it looked tweaked so I decided to pull it out; not thinking that it was tweaked from being nearly broken. Who knows when it happened.

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:42 pm
by Mcstiff
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
ShavedQuattro wrote:What is taking so long? :)


Hank coulda' did this whole swap in a weekend. What 's up Ed?[/quote]
Parts delays account for a large amount of time as well as never having more than a ~4hr period to work. Oh well, I was hoping this was final assembly.

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:06 pm
by Mcstiff
I'm really debating what to do. Extracting the stud with the head in place seems risky. I have a complete 7a available but the whole attraction of the 7at, for me, is not having to pull the engine/head.

Seriously considering taking the rods off the shelf, running the AAN and being done with it.

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:27 pm
by B. Rock
Maybe I'm missing something, but when you're so close to firing up how is that a logical possibility?

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:39 pm
by Mcstiff
Well, ripping the car apart in the first place was not very logical :dur:

I guess i'm hung up on having to pull the head (TB, WP, HG, bolts/studs, other gaskets, etc) and just ending up with a 7a again.

So the one that broke is at ~10 o'clock (cyl 1), if I run the other 3 will it seal?
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Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:53 pm
by HeartlessNomad12
fresh gasket and perhaps some gasket sealant junk it should especially if u can get to all of them and crank them well. I can usually crank down hard on half the bolts on most things and it seems to do the job...

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:55 pm
by Mcstiff
The way I see I is that the 7a only used two studs and sealed fine in my last 7at. I don't think rotating the two studs 180° will have a huge impact.

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:22 pm
by B. Rock
Just go for it. You'll have a hard time hearing it over the open dp I suspect...plus if it seals, you're ok. And if it leaks by just a smidge, at least you'll have started/driven the car.

Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:38 pm
by Mcstiff
Lol, I'll have to hook up the DP for emissions :D

Re: Ed's 1991 CQ. Nitty Gritty

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:48 pm
by Mcstiff
Well, a buddy of mine thinks he can extract it in situ! Won't be until Sun/Monday so I'll keep wrapping up what I can in the meantime.