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Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:27 pm
by quattro v1.0
Sunday, productive Sunday...
I took a trip to Home Depot to get the proper size hole saw (1 1/8 - 29mm) for the CA bushings. Aaron, this method of removing the control arm bushings is the shizz. If it weren't for my battery going lame on me a few times on my cordless drill I would have had all 8 of them out in less than a half hour. Far less messy than burning them too - sorry Hank. 8)
I got all the strut assemblies broke down with a little help from John. They were a bit stubborn but we prevailed. Sent John home with some tokens of my appreciation which will be used on Herr's UrQuattro project.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:46 pm
by speeding-g60
WOOHOO!!!!! I am a useful engine!!!!
(if you are not around kids you wouldnt understand LOL) ((Thomas the Train))
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:32 am
by quattro v1.0
OMG Just looked at the calendar...
Only 2 more weekends before the event !?!?!?
Im taking thursday off, that will give me 4 solid days of work this weekend...
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:33 am
by Hybrid_Hatch
Trust me, I know... i'm in the middle of gathering more parts. I should be INSTALLING parts, not buying!
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:27 am
by Hank
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
OMG Just looked at the calendar...
Only 2 more weekends before the event !?!?!?
Im taking thursday off, that will give me 4 solid days of work this weekend...[/quote]
I hope those Koni's were worth the procrastination.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:33 am
by Zzak
quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]
I think my starting point with the springs is going to be 375 F / 400 R and if that is remotely close to how the Coupe S-Line handles I will be impressed. I'm happy with the Red Pill not-having a sway bar on the front with similar rates.[/quote]
No clue how they compare really but I think the s-line has 300-350lb progressive fronts with 400lb linear rears. I spent a while swapping springs and roll bars till I found a setup that felt like an Audi to me (well felt like my B5 S4 at least). I'd think you could use lower rates on the urq since it's so much lighter. Regardless, I'm curious to hear what your impressions are after the change.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:34 am
by quattro87
Wow, you guys are really getting with the program. I'm still doing the pre order tear down. I just get more and more behind. :frustrated:
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:50 pm
by quattro v1.0
ShavedQuattro wrote:quattro v1.0 wrote:
OMG Just looked at the calendar...
Only 2 more weekends before the event !?!?!?
Im taking thursday off, that will give me 4 solid days of work this weekend...[/quote]
I hope those Koni's were worth the procrastination.[/quote]
Don't ask...
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 12:54 pm
by Hank
hehehehe
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:49 pm
by quattro v1.0
What's a bird to do...
...when there are no more perches :dur:

I really wasn't planning on getting too dirty tonight, but one thing leads to another and there ya go.
I have a little bit of detail grinding to do, but an hour and a half's worth of work gave me enough sense of accomplishment to head in and get cleaned up. With a 4 day weekend ahead I think I might be able to actually do a little more cleaning and refinishing than I had planned on these.
Im on track for Sunday to have the fronts reinstalled and the rears ready and awaiting the subframe changeout.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:21 pm
by quattro87
Check the fit of your sleeves!! You may have more grinding ahead than you think. I don't think that the A1 racing sleeve's 55mm ID is the same 55mm OD of the audi tubes. Close, but not exact. I found that I was into shiney bare metal for quite some time before I could slide the sleeves into place. I guess here in America we are still learning how to use/manufacture in metric. :wink:
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:24 pm
by speeding-g60
yeah, i had to de-paint mine too

Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:39 pm
by quattro v1.0
Heck, I don't even have the crud knocked off them yet. I have a new tool I can't wait to try on them lol
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:43 pm
by speeding-g60
i like these myself:


Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:31 am
by oldsklaudidub
Flap wheel?
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:28 am
by 85oceanic
Those sanding discs are a godsend! I love them! They kick the crap out of a grinding wheel any day of the week.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:04 am
by Hank
So what Koni's did you end up using?
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:07 am
by quattro v1.0
The yellow's
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:09 am
by Hank
hehehe.... I giggled when my Dad told me that story
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:18 am
by quattro v1.0
Im glad someone did
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:58 am
by quattro v1.0
ok, Delrin control arm bushings - installing...
Best method? pull them thru with washers / threaded rod? or press them in?
Helpful hints? freeze them?
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:07 pm
by speeding-g60
you did get the sleeve part out of the control arm too, right? when you get the rubber out, there is a metal sleeve left.
but i just put em in the vice.
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:11 pm
by quattro v1.0
Well that wasn't as bad as I expected. I froze all the bushings while I was de-burring / reaming the control arms, then about the time Aaron was suggesting using the vice - I was out in the garage using the vice.
Done:
Front subframe R&R with new solid mounts
Struts removed and broken down
Rear subframe (spare) stripped, seam welded, and painted ready to go
Control arm bushes removed
Press in all eight Delrin CA bushings
Remove / grind stock spring perches
Replace one ball joint (cracked boot)*
Prepare uprights for coil-over transition
Start the process of dropping rear subframe / diff
Weld up the support rings for the threaded sleeves
Next up:
Assemble the coil-overs
R&R diff mount (delrin)
As much cleaning / de-gunking of remaining bits and pieces as I can stand.
I received the new rear pads and disks...
* I had ordered a cheap replacement ball joint from a Fiat 124 to see if the boot itself would fit on the Lancia, to my dismay, it did not. However it fit the UrQuattro ball joint perfectly! So, for $10 I threw out the Fiat ball joint and transferred the new boot over to the UrQ and I was able to not-use one of my spare early UrQ ball joints for the sake of a torn boot! Very happy about this one...
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:14 pm
by Hank
Very cool! Keep it up Sean!!! That is sad when your project is the "safe bet" to be there in 2 weeks!
Re: I took the BLUE Pill. (Sean's Helios 83 UrQ)
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:05 pm
by quattro v1.0
Im on the home stretch, I got even a few more things checked off my above list this evening - thanks to your Dad. We got my support rings welded to my rear strut housings.
I know how hard everyone is working to get their cars done. Sean in Henderson will likely start his car tomorrow for the first time in 3 or more years. Except for the diff mount mine is in the back-together stage. Herr's UrQ is on track as well. Keep the momentum Hank and don't accept defeat