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TDI RatRod (full thread)

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:27 pm
by PRA4WX
That's right, the pile of junk knocking on the door of 300k miles got it's debut today at the Ozarks Mountain Region SCCA chapter autox.....it was an ABSOLUTE BLAST!!!! Finishing first in class wasn't too bad either! :drive: i got really lucky to win.....and not by much at that, at just over 4 tenths of a second. :bang: The car plowed and rolled all over the course, but with a couple runs down i started to be able to get the rear end to come around. It really was a riot to drive! Met some great people out there who were totally helpful! Not to mention a really nicely done Audi TT. :-)

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Re: Rat Rod debut! Now Rat Rod 2 debut!

Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:43 am
by PRA4WX
Well lots has happened since that post. The Rat Rod is gone but it's essence has since been imparted to the Pale Horse, and now a new Rat Rod has come along in the form of another tornado red VAG product-a corrado! I'm very excited as one of the first cars i drove was a G60. This one needed/needs attention but will serve commuter/autoX duty.

It is a 1990 G60 with a 2870 Lysholm. Don't know who if any around here have any familiarity with these guys be it PG's or Lysholms but thought i'd throw my difficulties with it out here for input. Here is the deal.....I've got a Lysholm newly fitted, recently went to a 55mm pulley (live at ~ 5k feet above sea level) and am only seeing 11.3 psi max at ~redline in third and fourth gear pulls. I've pressure tested intake plumbing, and it will hold 15psi solid for more than a minute. New BBM billet tensioner cap to make sure of no belt slip. Any thoughts? Johnny says that he loses 2psi going from sea level to Bend OR @3500 ASL. Sounds logical that i could lose 4 or so at 5k ASL. BBM's site claims around 17+ for the 55mm, 18+ on the 53mm, and 22+ on the 50mm. Wondering what charger guys experience at altitude as if this seems normal. Seems a bit excessive to me but i dunno with chargers.

Oh, and some pics to come.

Re: Rat Rod debut! Now Rat Rod 2 debut!

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:57 pm
by PRA4WX
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Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:02 am
by PRA4WX
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Well it's alive.

Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:29 am
by mr_aj_johnson
That took a little bit of time ;) . This just gonna be an autox/corner carver or what's the next step?

Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:37 pm
by PRA4WX
Just a little:
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Not big enough
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VR6 clutch to go with single mass flywheel
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Little portingImage
New seal while in there
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AFN EM
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Cheap coil overs
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Head after decking and valve job
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GT2260VK
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Pedal clusters
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Sorting wiring
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Cam comparison, 276 TT G60, stock 1Z, and Stage 3 Kerma
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Hold it together
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New HG
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Wiring
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more wiring
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more wiring
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Bosio Race 520's
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New cluster in place (although the final with MFA and boost, egt, etc, yet to come)
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Malone handling the software (egr delete, VNT conversion, R520's, etc)
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Lift pump fuel pressure reduction
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Drop in cam needed some clearancing
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VNT GT2260VK and AFN fits, but BARELY
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No egr, and it didn't clear so hamfisted something
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Originally
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Mo betta
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Aaaand more wiring
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In place and starting to work and charge pipe routing
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Slight improvement over the stocker
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Jimmy, these look familiar?? :wink:
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Making G60 AC and power steering work with the 1Z
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Death by wiring
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Ventilation
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Chasing wiring ghosts
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Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:43 pm
by A20V200
Looks good, what a cluster F*&k of wiring, better you than me..how's it run?

Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:55 pm
by PRA4WX
mr_aj_johnson wrote:That took a little bit of time ;) . This just gonna be an autox/corner carver or what's the next step?
It took me a little bit! :wink:
Commuter travel car/weekend autoX and track car. I'm still getting it road worthy. Hasn't left the garage yet. Still working on sorting cruise control integration, have to wire in the final lift pump control circuit, bleed brakes/clutch, re-torque ARP's, build final down pipe, etc before i can start driving it.

A20V200 wrote:Looks good, what a cluster F*&k of wiring, better you than me..how's it run?

Starts right up and idles/runs beautifully...but haven't driven it yet.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:17 am
by mr_aj_johnson
Good work! Make sure to give an update on fuel mileage too. looks like a good all purpose car.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:36 am
by PRA4WX
I'll try and report the mileage is see. To be honest, if i were to get nothing better than 30mpg, i'd be satisfied. I'm shooting for an average in the 50's with the ability to touch 60mpg if driven carefully.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:45 am
by MikkiJayne
What did you do to that doodad from the pump? I can't tell from the picture - it looks like you extended it somehow?

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:03 pm
by PRA4WX
It's a small plate added to the case pressure relief valve. They tend to "pop" with revs, and this plate prevents that. Case in point-the donors had popped and the previous owner was un aware. You can tell by the small black portion you see exposed from the valve in the first picture. That black tip should sit flush with the valve body.

TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:56 pm
by Mcstiff
Cruise!? AC?!!

Can't wait to check it out :P

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:21 am
by MikkiJayne
PRA4WX wrote:It's a small plate added to the case pressure relief valve. They tend to "pop" with revs, and this plate prevents that. Case in point the donors had and the previous owner was un aware and it is the small black portion you see exposed in the first picture. That black tip should not be exposed but sit flush with the valve body.


Interesting thanks. I'll have to check that out :thumbsup:

Re: Former Rat Rod, and it's successor

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:50 am
by psychorallyfreak
PRA4WX wrote:Chasing wiring ghosts
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Can't say for sure, but I think it's the white wire. :tard:

Looks like quite the undertaking!

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:58 am
by PRA4WX
MikkiJayne wrote:
PRA4WX wrote:It's a small plate added to the case pressure relief valve. They tend to "pop" with revs, and this plate prevents that. Case in point the donors had and the previous owner was un aware and it is the small black portion you see exposed in the first picture. That black tip should not be exposed but sit flush with the valve body.


Interesting thanks. I'll have to check that out :thumbsup:


You can glean some info here:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=206384

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:27 am
by PRA4WX
Mcstiff wrote:Cruise!? AC?!!

Can't wait to check it out :P


Not yet, but working on it! :wink:

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:31 am
by MikkiJayne
Ah right :) I never rev mine hard tbh since it just goes flat at 4000.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:45 am
by PRA4WX
Well it left the garage under tdi power for the first time. Any number of issues to sort/wrap up but it's running and driving.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:25 am
by PRA4WX
Corrado 2+2??
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Took a spin to the bike shop last night. Can't wait to have the down pipe/exhaust on and turn it up a bit. Even at only 5psi it moves all right. Popped an intercooler hose last night. May have to rework the junction where the intake side turns down and connects with a lower hose. You can see said junction here:
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With some tweaking it joins better now......but i'm not totally happy with it

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:34 am
by Mcstiff
3 across in a CQ fits better! Can you shove a CQ seat bottom in there?

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:00 pm
by PRA4WX
Mcstiff wrote:3 across in a CQ fits better! Can you shove a CQ seat bottom in there?

I am going to give it a shot at some point! :wink:

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:22 am
by PRA4WX
It's exhausted now. While on the lift getting the exhaust done the infamous corrado radiator neck broke completely off w/o room to reclamp enough to even limp home. So this is the rig we came up with to get home:
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Finally have given in and a billet replacement is in its way. I was looking forward to beginning to drive it......

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:23 am
by PRA4WX
And that problem solved:
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On to the next. Took it out last night for a quick spin to get the wife some cider. Boosting to about 10psi. First two gears easy throttle but enough to see about 5lbs. Did a stronger pull through 3rd two times up to and backed off at 10psi.....everything good to go. Runs out pretty good too. I'm excited! Turn around to head back and decide to do one more 3rd gear pull from cursing at 2k rpm. Back off before 4k, and on decel the engine shuts down. Add throttle, and it comes to life but its running weak. Have to stay in the revs to keep it running when off load, on load can only use light throttle or it bogs and dies. It would die at idle. I would then crank, crank, crank, and some throttle and it would come to life. Managed to nurse it home. Sounds like fueling to me........ Lift pump is still running, no air in line, no fuel leaks-okay so that all seems good. I've put off changing the fuel filter-it has the filter from the donor and i don't know how long it had been in service-but was planning on it anyway. Gonna pull the lines after and at the filter and verify i still have good fueling from the in tank and through the filter. Maybe clogged filter? Water?
Any of this tell the experienced tdi'er something? Sound like fueling?

Have an exhaust leak somewhere in the at the back of the head.

Noticed some exhaust track from the #4 injector as well. Retorqued it. How common is blowby at the injectors? No fuel was leaking from the injector tops but a couple were slightly wet at the line and nut junction. Retorqued the lines.

Re: TDI ratrod

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:33 pm
by PRA4WX
Made the first road trip today in the tdi to meet a friend with a super proper TDI swapped MK2 GTI. Drove Pikes Peak. The tdi RatRod ran well. Image
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