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Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:52 pm
by mushasho
On my way to the machine shop to lighten my 7a Flywheel.... Will I notice an improvement removing 5-7lbs?...
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Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:52 pm
by PRY4SNO
I don't math very well, but this was an interesting read:
http://www.w8ji.com/rotating_mass_acceleration.htm
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:15 pm
by amd is the best
I'd leave it as heavy as possible.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:25 pm
by themagellan
amd is the best wrote:I'd leave it as heavy as possible.
Yes! This.
Even more so after reading that you want easy drive-ability, and smooth clutch engagement.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:33 pm
by amd is the best
The extra inertia of a heavy flywheel will help reduce the any shock on the crank, crank cog, timing assembly, etc. It also helps with launching.
That being said Matt has the 9lb aluminum tilton flywheel and I have the 29lb steel tilton flywheel and they drive nearly the same. Same clutch materials and springs too.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:45 pm
by mushasho
I was thinking along the lines of a Happy medium 18-19lbs...
Are you sure that unloaded, Matt's car isn't a bit more rev happy than yours Nick? ... I know that pedal effort and feel would be similar if not equal but once it starts engagement you probably need to feather more gas on Matt's car, no?
Believe me, I want some weight in my flywheel, but wondering if any small reduction would be noticeable...
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Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:05 pm
by mushasho
Added an extra pin to minimize trigger errors in VEMS

Outgoing deal looks different than the one going in

Ribbed rubber...

Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 6:05 pm
by themagellan
mushasho wrote:Added an extra pin to minimize trigger errors in VEMS

Outgoing deal looks different than the one going in

Ribbed rubber...

Tell me i'm stupid, but I hope you didnt add a pin in front of the first one? Also, doesn't it measure from when the resistance ended (Ie the sensor will think you have less teeth, or your timing will be different?)
I'm sure you did your research... just saying since this is something not so easy to take out and replace hahaha! Can't wait to see this thing in action.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 11:04 am
by mushasho
themagellan wrote:mushasho wrote:Added an extra pin to minimize trigger errors in VEMS

Tell me i'm stupid, but I hope you didnt add a pin in front of the first one? Also, doesn't it measure from when the resistance ended (Ie the sensor will think you have less teeth, or your timing will be different?)
I'm sure you did your research... just saying since this is something not so easy to take out and replace hahaha! Can't wait to see this thing in action.
Not stupid to assume that all... the crank turns clockwise, so I placed it after the original pin. You can see the weld next to the pin I added.
In the end, compensation can be accomplished by way of the adjustable cam gear as well...
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:00 pm
by pilihp2
So did you add two extra pins? It really appears that way.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:24 pm
by mushasho
LOL... no just really bad mig soldering by my part... the solder was shaved down making it look as if it were a pin...
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:45 pm
by pilihp2
Hah! gotcha. Can relate...
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:47 pm
by loxxrider
Mig soldering?
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:53 pm
by mushasho
loxxrider wrote:Mig soldering?
...welding...

Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:40 am
by tfried87
Hey not sure if youve already purchased a new pp but ive been running the SB stg3 daily with the Hd pp for about 3k miles now. The pedal feel is only slightly heavier then stock with really positive engagement. ita a tad grabby but not bad at all. Im only pushing around 300whp but around 330wtq. Hope this was helpful!
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:17 pm
by mushasho
tfried87 wrote:Hey not sure if youve already purchased a new pp but ive been running the SB stg3 daily with the Hd pp for about 3k miles now. The pedal feel is only slightly heavier then stock with really positive engagement. ita a tad grabby but not bad at all. Im only pushing around 300whp but around 330wtq. Hope this was helpful!
Input is always helpful... the question is, is it the stg3 on a AAN flywheel or 7a? ..
The 7a Stage3 kit doesn't use an HD PP, it's a 707...
the Stg3 kit for an AAN flyheel uses a "uprated" PP(called HD on some websites as well)
... which are you using?
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:22 pm
by audifreakjim
The 707 is an uprated PP.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 12:52 pm
by mushasho
audifreakjim wrote:The 707 is an uprated PP.
yup but it's uprated more than the HD... 707>HD>Stock on 7A kits (approximately 900, 600, 300 tq rating)....
I've only seen "high clamp pressure plate"(stage 1&2) and "highly modified pressure plate" (stg 3&4) on AAN kits... None of these are 707's... It would definitely bump up the price by $600 bucks or soo..
.....(highly modified>high clamp>Stock in terms of clamping capacity)...
I have yet to see a 707 PP used on a AAN spec flywheel, the stack height would be way too tall I believe...
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:32 am
by mushasho
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:54 am
by dana
mushasho wrote:
good god, I hear that.....2 years later, still wrenching on the car that I've never driven once.
Re: New Clutch Kit
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:54 am
by loxxrider
lol so true
Re: Rubi Beta v3.0 - The Assemble Phase...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:58 pm
by mushasho
Who's got a passenger side fender liner I can buy... Same as A6 maybe? ... Looks like a mangled my horn as well in the process...

Re: Rubi Beta v3.0 - The Assemble Phase...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:25 pm
by PRY4SNO
How soon would you want it?
I might be retiring the UrS4 from daily duties (read: scrapping) in favour of the 80.
Re: Rubi Beta v3.0 - The Assemble Phase...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:27 pm
by mushasho
PRY4SNO wrote:How soon would you want it?
I might be retiring the UrS4 from daily duties (read: scrapping) in favour of the 80.
Not a huge rush... let me know when it's about to be scrapped...
Re: Rubi Beta v3.0 - The Assemble Phase...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 2:25 pm
by PRY4SNO
Will do.
If you find one more local before then, go for it. I have the feeling shipping will be the major factor here, considering the distance.