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Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-25 holey motor pix and race vids

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:05 pm
by loxxrider
I'm going to assume that it blew up because of the overrev. Thats just shitty luck :(

Glad to hear you are going to keep persevering though! Its going to be well worth it once you get that first 9 sec pass under your belt. You have an awesome machine. Now mine is kinda awesome too. Just put got home from puttin the Holset on :D

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-25 holey motor pix and race vids

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:25 am
by a_CQ
Ohh man...that sucks.

Going 2nd to 1st is pretty hard even at 10-20mph, you must have forced that shifter hard get it in 1st at what 55-60mph, and still let the clutch out...I know it's split seconds, but it truly blows.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-25 holey motor pix and race vids

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:34 pm
by speeding-g60
its all about the one handed launch style now. LOL

lets see Janis do that. :hide:

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-25 holey motor pix and race vids

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:32 pm
by repomanpro
with the 138MPH that is 9 second teritory. it looks like the way you have the clutch setup
your launch is alot softer then it should be. you are giving up alot in the first 100 feet.

What parts are you looking for to slap together another engine. Jerry and I can check the
Gerage to see if we have anything you might need.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:52 pm
by speeding-g60
Don, i think we got all the hard parts. we have cranks and block. IE is supplying the rest. thanks :)

this is a scene i am getting altogether too familiar with. LOL

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Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:57 pm
by speeding-g60
i guess i forgot the good stuff.

pulled crank out of extra block today.
Joey is picking up the 1.8T motor from the shed to use for the block. it has piston squirters.

IE order placed today, probably already shipped, too.

2008cc stroker setup for 92.8mm crank.
JE 83mm bore 20mm pin 8.5 compression coated top/skirt pistons.
IE rifle drilled rods with ARP New Age 625 rod bolts. lets see these things break!
JE Tool Steel double wall tapered end pins.
ACL coated bearings.
ARP main studs.

my head is toast. we will move all of the solid lifter stuff over to my backup head, its a ported out AWP. it made lots of power.... and with the 2.0L bottom end this time, it should do quite well.

we need this thing up and running in three weeks, so i can dyno it then run it 22nd August.

hope i can get'r dun, once again. setting up the solid head is gonna be the biggie. the rest is machine work, and thats simple.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-25 holey motor pix and race vids

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:47 pm
by fasterthenrs2
speeding-g60 wrote:its all about the one handed launch style now. LOL

lets see Janis do that. :hide:

Ha ha that’s how I get really fast 1 to 2 nd shift, and dude you need to stop blowing shit up, damn I have done some carnage but you beat me hands down on killing stuff

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:51 pm
by oldsklaudidub
ouch. what caused the failure? or did I miss that explanation already, if so im sry.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:54 pm
by speeding-g60
i dunno, Janis.... how many motors you killed? axles? clutches? trans's? rear ends?

i am just really starting my career as the killer.... :)

i have 3 built motors, complete waste.
1 narrow first geared 01E.

about it, i'd say....

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:56 pm
by speeding-g60
oldsklaudidub wrote:ouch. what caused the failure? or did I miss that explanation already, if so im sry.


speeding-g60 wrote:i shifted from top of second gear back into first instead of third. so a mechanical over-rev. 11,495 rpm i saw on the log :o


i think that started it. looks as if the ARP 2000 rod bolts stretched or broke. will know more tomorrow when we disassemble the bottom and end see just how tight the remaining rod bolts are.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:02 pm
by oldsklaudidub
11,495 rpm yep that might do it.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-27 carnage pix...

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:23 pm
by speeding-g60
that crank dont look savable to me.

it has a pretty good gash on the inboard face of the journal as well, that i cant get a good pic of while its still in the block.

looks like we may be able to salvage the girdle, and just maybe have the Billet mains moved to the new block and line-honed in. gotta get it all to the machine shop to see about that.

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Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:28 pm
by loxxrider
whoa, thats bad

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:26 pm
by 85oceanic
ya.... that sucks.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:33 pm
by oldsklaudidub
Is there a shift gate, or lock that would prevent you from shifting into the wrong gear and over revivng?

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:47 pm
by speeding-g60
gonna figure somethin out.....

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:56 pm
by 123quattro
Ouch. That really sucks. :(

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:59 pm
by loxxrider
I was thinking the same thing. Some kind of shift gate.

Since its a drag car, you could do some kind of simple latch that only allows it to come out of first and never go back in until its disengaged by you. That'd be relatively easy.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:09 pm
by speeding-g60
i been thinking on something for awhile now. like a reverse capital N.

its not a problem 1-2, just 2-3. so i thinking on something, gonna mess around with it this weekend, along with mounting a parachute among other things like DOM steering arms and re-engineered inner tie rod connector, etc.

also want to spend some more quality time with the spare cast control arms for the rear. having issues with the stamped ones and toe-in. visibly toed in hard, and even on the machine. but the car drives straight as an arrow.... so i dunno. i think the ball joint thing is sliding around in the channels.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:12 pm
by Noisy Cricket
The crank is technically fixable (assuming it's not cracked) but why bother? If it was weird rare old schtuff then it'd make sense, but it's not is it?

Bondo the dents and file it smooth and sell it to a Vortexer as a semi-composite race crank :)

Someone needs to make a performace VWAG automatic, no missed shifts there :dur:

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:12 pm
by zerb
oh my fiddle sticks.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:46 pm
by speeding-g60
the crank is just a forged 1.8T crank with the rod journals machined down to work with the one-off custom rods and pistons. definitely not do-able in 2.5 weeks. highly doubt it could be done this year, replicating that setup. not worried about it, goin off the shelf always available parts.

yeah, i seem to have a reputation for breaking things.

:)

and Joey is tryin to talk me into running an IPT trans, S4 Auto. would be cool if it could live. but at the cost of $5k plus, i would rather run the PAR dog-box for the same money.

but it would be cool, launching on a button and and ratchet shifting. set it up to shift on C02, all ya gotta do is floor it and steer :) and steering hasnt been an issue as of yet here i might add.

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:38 pm
by JonathanL
F the auto setup. You might be onto something with a gated shifter like others said. Ferrari style

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:46 pm
by my2000apb
yeah those tip trans are the total suck,

reall all you need is some sort of a catch/latch thatll flap closed

Re: Aarons Drag CQ: 7-28 dead crank pix

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:11 pm
by glibobbo21
i like the '10 tdi chicktronic..but thats a diff boat all together...damn dude, go big or go home in one piece I guess. haha, a great man once said "you got spunk, kid" you definitely have the required "spunk" for this type of project!