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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:45 am
by dana
AngryTaco wrote:dana wrote:aren't you also running mc2 pistons with mc1 ignition?
I did this once with EFI and chipped mc1 ecu, it was nocky nocky nock.
Yes I was. I never had a knock problem even with the increased boost. I routinely checked the spark plugs for signs of knock and never had issues.
AngryTaco wrote:
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:46 am
by themagellan
Hope this ends up being a 8:1 compression build with a 2.5 bottom end… Please?
Can I please hear what it would sound like…. please?
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:33 am
by AudiSport4000
dana wrote:AngryTaco wrote:dana wrote:aren't you also running mc2 pistons with mc1 ignition?
I did this once with EFI and chipped mc1 ecu, it was nocky nocky nock.
Yes I was. I never had a knock problem even with the increased boost. I routinely checked the spark plugs for signs of knock and never had issues.
AngryTaco wrote:
I was thinking the same thing. I never had knock issues with my chipped 4ktq either except once...right after I chipped it the CEL would pop on and timing would be pulled, and rightfully so. After a new sensor there were no more fault codes.
Id think it would be really tough to do that to a motor unless everything is working as it should (ie setting up the fault codes and actually checking them). Crazy, but its only money, right?

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:15 am
by AngryTaco
I wasnt having detonation issues. No pinging or knocking and the cel wasnt throwing codes. This was just a case of me not paying attention to the boost gauge when the creep happened. Turns out the boost issue of the collasping hose was saving me from this lol
The car was blowing blue for a while so I was going to have to tear the engine down anyways and re-ring at the minimum. Since Im done putting money into this motor anyways, it basically turned into a fuckit moment.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:17 am
by AudiSport4000
I am teh confused. I thought thats what fuel cut out was for? When my wg diaphram split I overboosted and quickly learned what and why the fuel cut out was there.
I apologize for my ignorance. Just trying to understand!
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:35 am
by dana
AngryTaco wrote:I wasnt having detonation issues

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:49 am
by AngryTaco
yeah yeah lol. What I should have said is detonation wasnt present till the end. Even my car buddies never heard any issues. I have had det issues in the past and those I were able to catch and correct. Melting pistons was a little different lol. Since I didnt care about it anymore, I didnt care to check the plugs. The plan was to rebuild anyways with a different motor so meh.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:50 am
by AngryTaco
AudiSport4000 wrote:I am teh confused. I thought thats what fuel cut out was for? When my wg diaphram split I overboosted and quickly learned what and why the fuel cut out was there.
I apologize for my ignorance. Just trying to understand!
I have a Natrix chip. Fuel cut is disabled which means unlimted BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST (and melted pistons)
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:58 am
by AudiSport4000
AngryTaco wrote:AudiSport4000 wrote:I am teh confused. I thought thats what fuel cut out was for? When my wg diaphram split I overboosted and quickly learned what and why the fuel cut out was there.
I apologize for my ignorance. Just trying to understand!
I have a Natrix chip. Fuel cut is disabled which means unlimted BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST (and melted pistons)
Really? Wow! Thats pretty dangerous.
I need to find a money tree

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:04 pm
by pilihp2
AudiSport4000 wrote:AngryTaco wrote:AudiSport4000 wrote:I am teh confused. I thought thats what fuel cut out was for? When my wg diaphram split I overboosted and quickly learned what and why the fuel cut out was there.
I apologize for my ignorance. Just trying to understand!
I have a Natrix chip. Fuel cut is disabled which means unlimted BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST (and melted pistons)
Really? Wow! Thats pretty dangerous.
I need to find a money tree

Safety is kind of boring with a 20v.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:19 pm
by AudiSport4000
Maybe, but a 20vt swap is the easiest dang thing to keep running, IMHO. I dont know many people that have the cash or enjoy engine pulls/rebuilds on a regular basis

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 2:38 pm
by AngryTaco
Because racecar
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:07 pm
by themagellan
AudiSport4000 wrote:Maybe, but a 20vt swap is the easiest dang thing to keep running, IMHO. I dont know many people that have the cash or enjoy engine pulls/rebuilds on a regular basis

I enjoy my 'stock' 20v 240whp daily…. :knocks on the biggest fucking tree around:
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:54 pm
by mr_aj_johnson
AudiSport4000 wrote:Maybe, but a 20vt swap is the easiest dang thing to keep running, IMHO. I dont know many people that have the cash or enjoy engine pulls/rebuilds on a regular basis

I just had a talk with him about this very idea. My goal is to show up drink beer and race cars... not fiddle dink with a kraut wagon the whole time.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:07 pm
by AudiSport4000
themagellan wrote:AudiSport4000 wrote:Maybe, but a 20vt swap is the easiest dang thing to keep running, IMHO. I dont know many people that have the cash or enjoy engine pulls/rebuilds on a regular basis

I enjoy my 'stock' 20v 240whp daily…. :knocks on the biggest fucking tree around:
I would love a 20v car. Until I can afford it I live vicariously through some people here. Lots of great knowledge around here.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 12:21 am
by AngryTaco
soooooo.....figured out what engine I'm going with

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:05 am
by chaloux
Uhuh?
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Damage Photos
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:15 pm
by AngryTaco
Ill post pictures after I buy the engine. I think I'm going to excite quite a few people here.
Lets just say it involves the following:
a 5-cylinder motor
2:1 rod/stroke ratio
Lots of boost
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:29 pm
by AngryTaco
So I figure I will give a list on what I plan to do to this car over the rest of the summer and into the winter.
1: Start tearing the body apart in prep for body work and paint
2: Tear down the engine bay, shave it, sand, prime, and prep for paint
3: Buy new engine, sell off the internals, and start building
4: Possibility of a cage
5: Redo all the stereo equipment and eliminate the 2 channel sub amp
6: Do the rear 3.89 conversion and coil overs
7: Do coil overs on the front of the car; take the t44 bilsteins out of the front and move them to the v8q (as the front shocks are going out)
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:19 pm
by my2000apb
wants more engine infoz!!!
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:09 pm
by alxdgr8
I'm guessing eurovan block since he's selling a crank from one
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:22 pm
by ringbearer
How many valves ?
Lol
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:18 pm
by AngryTaco
I'm thinking 12?
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:25 pm
by AngryTaco
Free keychain to who can correctly guess my internal build combo
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Starting Over....
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:26 pm
by AngryTaco
my2000apb wrote:wants more engine infoz!!!
where mah v8q partz!?