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vt10vt wrote:

loxxrider wrote:I think some of you are very mistaken on 911 values. Or stuck in last year's pricing. A good one cannot be had for average Joe money anymore.

Gonna go out on a limb and assume "some of you" means me

If anyone is serious, feel free to shoot me a PM, there's one an hour from me for $13k in driver condition with a lot of recent work done, not really "restored" but a solid driver and good restoration/restomod candidate. There's one two buildings over for $8k complete with a cool options package that is rust free but the motor is out and has "issues." I'll have another one for sale here soon for $15k, again, driver condition, no rust, almost all original euro car. Again, none of these are long hoods or restored, but they are cars you can get into and slowly start restoring.

But there's one I won't tell you about because too many would cry at the price It's all in who you know, just like anything else.

Trade for 7aT CQ?

I have had substantial daily driver seat time in a 993, and while it was well powered, stopped well and not to mention had nice input I still really don't die for the car as a whole. I think the allure wears off after a while, and really they are supremely expensive for even the most simple repairs, which happen to be often. If you have some weird emotional attachment to that icon I think go for it, but I never grew up caring about Porsches, I was drooling over McLaren F1's, XJ220's, F40's, and Lotus v8's. I just don't see the price/performance point with them right now.

The mechanical thing is cool but isn't everything, a 60's bug can be very fast and mechanical but still not too enjoyable. Still haven't got any rides/drives in any 80's vintage bmw's so no comment there haha, but there are so many options.

A 993 is way different from a pre-964 car. It's like comparing, say, an Audi TT to an ur-Quattro.

Which is somewhat ironic, because I'd rather have a 911SC over a 993, but given the choice between a TT and an "urk", I'd drool over the older car but the practical side of me would take the TT.

Being practical sucks sometimes.

Mcstiff wrote:Trade for 7aT CQ?

The only Porsche guy I know also into Audis already has a 3B swapped CQ, don't think he wants to go back to cast pistons

vt10vt wrote:

Mcstiff wrote:Trade for 7aT CQ?

The only Porsche guy I know also into Audis already has a 3B swapped CQ, don't think he wants to go back to cast pistons

Yeah, I'm in no real hurry to sell the CQ either; I'd like a Pcar at some point (I was headed that way before I had a CQ).

Damn that's sexy, but slightly out of reach lol. I would NOT sell all of my cars to buy that. They are 30k cars to me in terms of performance value.

Just went for $8k sans engine and a bunch of other stuff but pretty sweet start to a project

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche- ... assis.html

Wonder if an 07k would fit transverse and just power the rear wheels...

And yes, I've been watching the pelican parts for sale forum

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I've sort of given up on this idea unless I somehow inherit a ton of cash.

I'll likely end up with a 914 if I decide air cooled is an absolute must have, or an ugly 996 if it isn't. The 996 is just a ton of car for how cheap they've become.


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Yeah I noticed the 996 prices... Ridiculous. It'll either be a 996 with mods or something old. I'm seriously considering an 07k swap. If v8s fit, a little 5 cylinder should...

I would be weary of 996 engines. Those cars are cheap for a reason.

123quattro wrote:I would be weary of 996 engines. Those cars are cheap for a reason.

Because they're ugly

The IMS bearing issue is something you really want to be weary of but at this point between a lot and most cars that have either suffered engine failure or had the upgrade/fix/maintenance done. That's the biggest issue, but not to say it won't suffer some other random and serious engine failure

I'm going to consult with you when I'm ready to buy, Shawn. Hopefully we're not both 90

Or....you could buy a 928. Half the price of a 911. I love mine.

I have a problem with any car you are scared to mod for value reasons and would get raped on any track (both drag and road race) by a new toyota Camry. Maybe if I had it as a 3rd car with a good daily and a fast toy, but probably not even then.

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I agree with the previous post on the 928.
I was looking for a 911 or a M491 turbo look for a very long time, but the prices have doubled, then tripled. So I went after a '89 928 and it's fast and handles like a big go-kart with the gurgle/rumble of a big V8. I still get looks and comments all the time on the car.
plus they are really price reasonable at the moment. I would suggest to grab one now, because they are slowly going up in price and value.
and would I sell all my Audi's to get into a air cooled Porsche...... nope !!!
5 cylinder, turbo, Quattro with forged parts and stage 3 boosted sleeper is way cheaper on insurance and never given a second look by PO-PO.
The Porsche 928 on other hand, everyone looks at it.

Unless it's a 5psd GTS (which is 911 money), I personally would never look at a 928. Can't stand the look of the early ones... Part of the reason the 968 is getting 993 headlights molded into the fenders.
A 944 turbo in my mind is much more fun all around...but you have to be content with about 350whp on a stock block or around 550whp on a built motor. People have thrown lots of money at those engines (8v and 16v) and not many have made much over 500whp. 928 is pretty similar, you have to spend a even more money to get what most people consider nowadays 'marginal' horsepower. Not to mention there's even less space on a 928 than 951 to work on the engine. Unless you do an 07K swap

I don't think any of the front engine Porsches are ever going to appreciate the way 911's have. Sure, both 944 and 928 have been going up in value recently, but you have to have a really pristine LOW mileage example (like sub 50k miles). The 968 seems to have done better than the 951's have, but those are much less mod friendly (albeit, more reliable).

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/c ... 60678.html
O7k...

scubagli wrote:http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/cto/4878560678.html
O7k...

And you have to keep those wheels

That's an awful lot of money for not a lot of car.

Jack

alxdgr8 wrote:A 944 turbo in my mind is much more fun all around...but you have to be content with about 350whp on a stock block or around 550whp on a built motor. People have thrown lots of money at those engines (8v and 16v) and not many have made much over 500whp.

I think the limiting factor is the diff. They aren't nearly as strong as the 928 transaxles. 500whp out of 2.5L is pretty solid though.