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Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:09 am
by ralleyquattro
Thank you for the info, I will check my cable now!

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:15 am
by wilke_jb
Hope it works! Check all four pins - I think both of my connectors were backwards, but you could have just 2 switched? Also, I was going to cut the adaptor up and fix it correctly, but I found it easier to just remember to switch them upside down, as mine was molded and no way to effectively cut it to change the pinout. Good luck.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:26 am
by ralleyquattro
Just checked, all 4 pins correspond correctly.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:15 am
by wilke_jb
Sorry, worth a try I guess. Have you checked for B+ and ground on the car side black connector?

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:27 am
by smirre
Them old ecu's can sometimes be hard to communite with. My brothers a100 tdi AAT is impossible for me to get in to. My a6 tdi AEL is no problem.
Someone whispered that old vag-com interfaces actually could talk to theese ecu's.

But I still hope you go for a gtb2260vk, some mean nozzles and with a ecu from what you north americans call eurovan instead

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:18 pm
by PRY4SNO
Just noticed this thread, so much win!

Great reading through your progress, quite remarkable how well/quickly everything all came together! Congrats on another awesome car in the stable, you're getting quite a collection built up. *props

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:20 pm
by ralleyquattro
Thanks!

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:20 pm
by Wizard-of-OD
How did I miss this thread? Love it! :woowoo:

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:09 pm
by ktownboostn
Wrong thread... but That is one nice Urquattro you have Martin ! It was great meeting you today at the Berlin Klassik !

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:40 pm
by ralleyquattro
Thanks a lot! It was nice to meet up. Wish I could drive two cars at once, I would have brought the TDI as well.
I'll have to wait till my kids can drive them and enlist them for the service.. ;)

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI back on the road !!

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:37 pm
by ktownboostn
Ya i would have loved to see the Tdi ! I'm sure the kids would be more then happy to drive one of your cars when they can !

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:59 am
by ralleyquattro
Small update.
Second tank of diesel, still not fully timed yet, German post is taking it's time, but last half a tank was on the bumped timing by one tooth.
890km on 51L which makes it just over 5.7L/100km... bloody good if you ask me. Can't wait to see what it can do with proper timing and a chip ;)

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:01 pm
by ChrisAudi80
That kind of mileage just makes me cringe...in shame.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:07 pm
by chaloux
Nice Martin! With the timing set properly you should see a bit more, and it should have a bit more "go". What size is the tank? The most I ever did in the bug was 1380km on 63L.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:25 pm
by ralleyquattro
It is a small tank compared to previous quattro versions, sadly only 63L or so.... nothing like 90L in the Ur.. ;)

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:55 pm
by 80qtdi
And a chip huh... Let the modifying begin :D let me be the first to suggest a different set of nozzles, they will not affect the economy, but will give quite the boost in power. Hahaha

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:17 pm
by glibobbo21
do you have access to a 1552 vagcom?... maybe that will talk to it

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by MJF
Timing would be much accurate when adjusting with gauge, no need for vagcom.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:06 am
by ralleyquattro
Finally the tools have arrived and the motor is timed properly, with the tools it is very easy to time it.
Third tank of gas was as before 910km with 53L of diesel.
Now that it's aligned properly I am already at 310km and only 1/4 of a tank down!

Still waiting for the chip though.

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:06 pm
by ChrisAudi80
ralleyquattro wrote:Finally the tools have arrived and the motor is timed properly, with the tools it is very easy to time it.
Third tank of gas was as before 910km with 53L of diesel.
Now that it's aligned properly I am already at 310km and only 1/4 of a tank down!

Still waiting for the chip though.

Cheers

Impressive. A calculated 1200km+ on one tank...

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:46 am
by ralleyquattro
MJF wrote:Timing would be much accurate when adjusting with gauge, no need for vagcom.


What number do you use?
Factory spec for 1T and ABP is .42mm

Brickyard spec is .55 and he recommends going as far as .7
http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/VehicleSpec ... Timing.htm
I found it a bit hard to start cold with .42 so I bumped it to .65 and it's a bit happier now.
These tools make adjusting a breeze.

Cheers

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:05 am
by WOMBAT
I'm jealous of your superior TDIness

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:22 am
by elaw
ralleyquattro wrote:More progress:

Finished the downpipe and connected rest of the exhust, the ear section still needs to be welded, but it's tacked together for now.

Image

Hey... that nice-looking 3-bolt flange there... the back half looks like an OE part but the front looks new. Do you know of a place to buy those things - as in, the flared pipe ends, donuts, and the flange - new?

I've been looking everywhere but can't find anyone selling that setup which I find pretty surprising. I know all the cool people are using v-bands, but I like the donut setup because it'll tolerate a little misalignment.

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:41 pm
by ralleyquattro
I have a local shop that makes them for me.
I have a used one for sale with both ends flared and 3-bolt flange that is exactly the same length as a stock Ur-q CAT.

PM for details

Re: B4 90 quattro with 2.5 TDI running better and better!!

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:22 pm
by elaw
Well... what I'm actually trying to do is about the opposite of what you're doing - I'm *adding* a cat! And to make things even more fun, it's got 3" connections. The layout I'm thinking of is downpipe-cat-flex-reducer (to 2.5")-remainder of exhaust, and I think I'd like flanges between the downpipe and cat, and between the reducer and the rest of the exhaust.

Anyhow, didn't mean to hijack your thread! I want to read about how you tweaked the motor and are now getting 2000 miles to a tank of diesel. :-)