Her Mars Red 83 Urq ...23psi of manual boost...vid

[quattro87]

In that case, it sounds like I got the better of the installs by going with the outside brace and it could have been worse if the brakes would have been full and bled. It was hard to get at and would have been easier as the rack and M/C went in, but it was still easier than arguing with Lowe's and trying to sneak a freezer past the project cars with 1/2" clearance between cars. :(

[quattro87]

It's really coming together nicely John. I'm very upset about you having a nice header and not me though. :wink:

I know where you can get one just like it.

This is an absolutely amazing project. Beautiful!!!

Thanks Mark. When guys that have projects like you have put together think that Her Urq is moving forward it helps with the motivation side of things. I appreciate the support and comments.

[dbldmnd]

Looks good John, I'm jealous of the shiny goodness of the Iroz engine bays.

I got my clutch master and brace installed on saturday, it's a bit tight down in that corner with the booster. I think I have and original Jeff Lewis brace, and it could be a bit different that the current one.

We worked last night and got my RR downpipe back into shape and ready for install. I have spent probably 4 hours working the lines and brackets along the firewall, now I have a setup that I am happy with, including A/C. I get caught up working through the fitment of everything, thinking support, vibration, strain relief, etc. Also got the center diff lock vacuum lines installed and into the car.

Next up, install fuel rail lines, starter, turbo and lines, oil cooler, radiator, a/c compressor and torque down the crank pulley. Then its under the dash for wiring fun.

[Quattro v1.0]

Dave, I will probably find myself in Denver the week of the holiday and will likely make a run past Mr Hackl's place - maybe Tuesday-ish...

[quattro87]

Looks good John, I'm jealous of the shiny goodness of the Iroz engine bays.

I got my clutch master and brace installed on saturday, it's a bit tight down in that corner with the booster. I think I have and original Jeff Lewis brace, and it could be a bit different that the current one.

We worked last night and got my RR downpipe back into shape and ready for install. I have spent probably 4 hours working the lines and brackets along the firewall, now I have a setup that I am happy with, including A/C. I get caught up working through the fitment of everything, thinking support, vibration, strain relief, etc. Also got the center diff lock vacuum lines installed and into the car.

Next up, install fuel rail lines, starter, turbo and lines, oil cooler, radiator, a/c compressor and torque down the crank pulley. Then its under the dash for wiring fun.

Dave, I've been putting off the fuel, A/C, hydraulic lines and reservoir, and basically all that firewall crap until I run the new IIc wiring harness because of the lack of access to the carpet and inside firewall with the A/C evaporator in place. I still have quite a few fitment and major things that need to be sorted out, before I have to tackle that cluttered firewall crap. I for one would really like to see some pictures of some of your solutions of support, vibration, strain relief and such. I highly doubt if I'm the only one that would be interested in your car. :wink:

[Mcstiff]

quattro v1.0 wrote:[/quote]

Dave, I will probably find myself in Denver the week of the holiday and will likely make a run past Mr Hackl's place - maybe Tuesday-ish...[/quote]

Motorgeek lunch/dinner? I hope to be installing the Holset over the holiday but may be able to get away Thursday for lunch or dinner.

[ralleyquattro]

In that case, it sounds like I got the better of the installs by going with the outside brace and it could have been worse if the brakes would have been full and bled. It was hard to get at and would have been easier as the rack and M/C went in, but it was still easier than arguing with Lowe's and trying to sneak a freezer past the project cars with 1/2" clearance between cars. :(

North American cars are easy, I installed the outside brace on my Euro '85 and with the ABS in the way and extra harness it was almost impossible. I came very close to giving up as I could not et the brace in without pinching one harness and could not moe it out of the way at the same time... :frustrated:

[quattro87]

Thats where I was last night. There was a time I thought if I could only hold the harness tight against the fender well I might be able to just squeese it in. No way. I surely didn't need an extra rats nest of ABS module and lines in the way to have my hands full. The worst part was seeing new paint scuffed and knowing it all would have been so easy in the proper order. :(

[84urq20v]

Ummm, John. I guess first I'll say your car looks awesome so far. You really do a first class job - wish I had your patience, skills, etc to do it like you do. But now I'm going to say it has been well over a week and no updates?!?

Keep it up!

[quattro87]

Brandon, you are absolutely right.....almost 11 days would be closer. I don't like making excuses, but I have a pretty good one that has really thrown a wrench into the deadline works. The day after my last post I had to go back to work which in and of itself puts a damper on project progress. While at work we have what you call a brine concentrator that basically controls a brine at ~220f to take the vapor and condense it for making purified water, while the impurities in the water plate out and attach themselves to the brine seed. We were taking the system down for repairs and had to drain and flush everything because when cooled the brine sets up like concrete and really messes things up. While opening a 4" drain on a 2000gal hot brine tank, the drain line was plugged. I kept opening more and more knowing that I needed more pressure, but also knowing that the floor drain couldn't handle more than about 1/4 open. When I decided that it wasn't going to break loose I went to close the valve back down and of course when I just touched the 24" handle which when open lays horizontal and close to the drain opening, it broke loose. The drain couldn't handle the full open discharge and the over boiling temp brine, which by the way is controlled at between 5-6ph so slightly acidic, hit atmosphere it begins to flash off into steam. Needless to say my right hand took a beating.

A couple of days after. Notice the swelling and although the picture doesn't really show, the hand and arm was very red.


Picture of my good hand taken at the same time and place


notice no knuckles to speak of.


A painful week after.


A few days ago. Everything that was 2nd degree would blister if I went outside or worked much and I was trying real hard not to break the skin until some healing had taken place underneath. Wrenching was out of the question.


And a picture as I post. I was even out in the garage tonight.


The drive home on my motorcycle in a 112deg weather with the sun beating down was more painful than actually burning it. I wrapped it in white cloth and would crack a bottle of water and wet the rag down every couple of miles on my 37mile commute. As long as there was moisture to evaporate off of the cloth it wasn't too bad. I've taken the TT to work since then.



A few small updates anyhow. As you know when I changed the cam gear out to an adjustable gear the timing belt cover would no longer fit without rubbing on the adjustment nuts. I took a page out of Mark's track coupe and cut a hole just where the gear is at. I figured I could always claim that if you have an adjustable gear you need access to do the adjusting. 8)

Cutting and trimming.


Installed


After the cover was on I could then install the aux radiator and then the hydraulic pump using Ben Howell's aluminum piece to use the Urq pump with an AAN or 3B manifold. It only has the front bolt and bracket holding it, but seems to be sturdy enough. The belt tensioned right up just fine.



I had wanted to fabricate brackets for installing a newer rotary A/C compressor, but because of time and also having what I believe is a brand new OEM thumper compressor, I opted to try to get the A/C going OEM first and then revisit that later.


I also had to do something for an oil dipstick as I am using an AAN block with a 7A oil pan. The AAN dipstick holder is an affair that the tube slips into a holder cup that is pressed into the block and has an o-ring to seal. This probably seals just fine but isn't very sturdy without being attached to the AAN intake manifold and the tube and stick are different lengths.

7A tube on the left and AAN on the right.


Cup holder on the AAN block to accept the o-ringed tube.


I straightened, cut, and flaired the AAN tube, taking into consideration the tube not penetrating as deep into the block as the 7A. I then welded an attachment bracket onto the tube to attach to the motor mount. I should be able to use an OEM 7A stick and be pretty accurate. Of course I will put 5 quarts in to begin with and see just where I'm at on the stick, but I like how it turned out and it is plenty stiff and solid. While I was close I also hacked up the heater tube that runs alongside the block since the WR block doesn't have the block breather and the tube would hit there. I cut out the mounting bracket, welded the ends back together along with a new bracket to attach it to the AAN block. I ended up having to lengthen the hose between the tube and t-stat housing, but nothing major.


Bead blasting and painting didn't pose much danger of scraping the skin off my hand, so I did do some cleaning up and prepping.




That about does it for now. I'm still waiting on wiring connectors, coils, silicone connectors, and heat tubing along with 3" stainless to weld up the exhaust and a flying lead from 034. All in all I have a ton to do, no time and I'm beginning to wonder if I'll even have parts and material. I gave up on the EFR turbo getting here on time, but switching gears has presented a whole other can of worms. I'm beginning to worry. :curses:

[audifreakjim]

Wow, hopefully the hand gets better soon! The car looks good even if it is a little at a time.

[Mentosman42]

Wow hand looked brutal, you guys are making me feel better about missing it also

[Audilard]

It cracks me up how the Iroz family likes to take pictures of their wounds and post them. Hank showed me pictures of your hand on Saturday.

All this talk about not getting projects done by the deadline is unacceptable. :x :wink:

[84urq20v]

Wow John - crazy! Glad it's healing. And through all that - you're a better mechanic than me with one hand tied behind your back! :-)

[speeding-g60]

i gotta "hand" it to ya, you still keep steadily making progress!!!

[Wheeljack]

I had wanted to fabricate brackets for installing a newer rotary A/C compressor, but because of time and also having what I believe is a brand new OEM thumper compressor, I opted to try to get the A/C going OEM first and then revisit that later.

What are some good options for newer technology compressors for these cars? I don't think I can put the giant cinder block and mounting platforms back on.

[quattro87]

HaHa.....no puns intended right? Brandon, I think you are just trying to make me feel better so that I will keep working. Most times I don't feel like much of a mechanic at all. Like I told someone the other day when, as he surveyed all the junk in the side yard and garage, he asked me if I were a mechanic. I told him heck no, if I were a mechanic all of these cars would be running.

Aaron, thanks for posting and noticing that I am making some progress. It doesn't seem like it most of the time, but I keep crossing off little things that take up so much time. I have a few days off coming up and some materials and parts that ought to show up in the next few that hopefully I will be able to get a little bit more done.

[quattro87]

I had wanted to fabricate brackets for installing a newer rotary A/C compressor, but because of time and also having what I believe is a brand new OEM thumper compressor, I opted to try to get the A/C going OEM first and then revisit that later.

What are some good options for newer technology compressors for these cars? I don't think I can put the giant cinder block and mounting platforms back on.

Chris, what you don't think you like the extra 50lbs sitting in front of the axle taking up precious room? That's not even getting into the single lung vibration that comes with it. Kind of like taking a long trip on the CR500 dirtbike and wondering where the vibration is coming from.


I think that if a guy were to keep the serpentine belt just about anything would work. I have an almost new compressor out of an early 2000s Dodge Neon that would work just fine I think, but it is serpentine. I figured that I would look into seeing how difficult it would be to change back over to a v-belt. If that won't work I will probably go to the junk yard and look into similarly sized cars old enough to still have the v-belts and just look for something that would be the easiest to fabricate mounting brackets for. Either way custom hoses will have to be made at least on one end unless the evaporator from the donor car is also used. I was planning on keeping the OEM evap and just feed it with a smaller more efficient compressor. I may also, while looking for a suitable compressor, keep my eye out for a condensor that would fit the OEM spot, but have more condensing capacity to deal with the swap to 134a instead of r12. Ideally something that would already be paired up as far as condensor and compressor so that hoses between the two could be used or at least use the ends to make new hoses if new OEM ends can't be sourced at say a House of Hose or similar place. Chris, did you see Hank's fix on his truck where he tigged his OEM aluminum lines back together after the insurance totaled the truck? Works great.

[84urq20v]

I know of somebody who used a rotary compressor from an early '90's VW Fox. Let me see if I can get a pic.

[84urq20v]

Here's a couple pics - these came to me via Bob Dupree - I think it's one of the Fluhrs' cars.

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[quattro87]

Exactly. Even if you just found something that would work and then went down and bought a new/rebuild one to put in permanantly. A guy might be wise to look at a few options as to what would fit in domestic, japanese, korean, and european and then price for replacement to make the final decision.

Brandon, you still have your air right? Is it the OEM thumper compressor? How does your air work? I know that by todays standards they were lacking and especially without r12 in them, but was curious as to what you thought of yours.

[foxbat]

OUCH! John that hand looks pretty bad. Your pretty much John Wayne to be back in the garage thrashing away...make'n us all look like wimps. Let me know if there is something we locals can do to help.

[84urq20v]

yeah I have the stock setup (but converted to R134) - although I did have a shop modify the "big line (low pressure, I believe) so it is routed low - under the 3B manifold. It's "adequate" overall. It was great for the roadtrip to Vegas last year - but in town - meh. It vibrates quite a bit a idle. Really - the vent temps are actually decent - its the vibrating at idle ( I usually just turn off the compressor at lights on the rare occasions I use the A/C in town) I can't stand. Frankly I wish I never converted to R134 - I remember when I got the car the A/C was great (R12). So based on my limited knowledge - I would say if you keep the mini York - stick with R12 if possible. If you must convert - spend the bucks and go modern rotary - ESPECIALLY since you live in a place that gets a wee bit warm. Of course that would cost a bit more unfortunately....

[quattro87]

I doubt that this thumper York will ever see R12. I don't have any, don't know where I can get some, and I really don't have the money to buy R12, especially for a reciprocating York compressor. I remember having one on an old 64 ranchero and not liking it because of the size, weight, and vibration. They actually pump pretty well though. I have some freeze 12, or something along those lines, that is a petroleum based R12 substitute. It does alright, but really not much different or better that 134A. Right now A/C is the least of my problems.

[scubadave]

I hear propane works pretty good. Although, I'm not brave enough to run it in case of an interior leak. I've seen on tv somewhere they intentionally caused a leak and ignited it. Blew out all the Windows, it was awesome.