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BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:26 pm
by DE80q
So, I was asked about making some BBSE's. Can anyone tell me how long to make them? I do not have access to any UrS inserts, or I could figure it out myself. Any insight would be much appreciated.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:08 pm
by loxxrider
What is a bbse?
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:14 pm
by DE80q
Big Bore Strut Extender. At least that's what I can find it being called. It's an adaptor to weld into the from B3 strut housing to run revalved UrS inserts. I think that's how it worked. Either way, it allows us small chassis guys to run the larger diameter struts up front. Mance used to make them.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:47 pm
by PRY4SNO
Mance didn't provide any measurements on 12v or QW?
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:02 pm
by PRY4SNO
If my UrS4 fronts weren't destroyed in the accident this winter I'd have shipped them off for credit toward a coilover conversion.
I do have two sets of Bilstein/H&R rears tho! haha
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:07 pm
by DE80q
Honestly, I had no clue where to look. I'll search around more.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:41 pm
by deaner
If you're not in a huge hurry, I can cut the perch off one of my urs housings, hack off the top 4-6" and send it and a front urs insert out to ya. I won't be able to get to it for a week or two though. I know for sure I'd be in for a pair or two.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:05 pm
by DE80q
I appreciate the offer. I think all I really need to know if the length difference between the UrS strut frknt- strut, and the B3 front strut. I have the other measurements I need.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:16 pm
by deaner
I'll grab some measurements and pics for ya tomorrow. I've got spare b3 stuff here to compare with.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:29 pm
by DE80q
Awesome. That will help a lot.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:53 pm
by Wheeljack
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 10:01 pm
by DE80q
Thanks. I skimmed through it quickly. Ill go over it better in the morn. At work now.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 4:21 pm
by deaner
I don't have a loose B3 strut at the moment. I imagine you've got one or two kicking being as you've got a set a nekkid housings.

Re: BBSE question
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:05 pm
by DE80q
Is that a UrS housing you are showing it stick out 7/16" from?
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:24 pm
by deaner
Yes it is. I put that up because I couldn't find an accurate way to portray through the interwebs, the depth of the cap that screws on. Figured just showing you what sticks out would work easiest.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:31 pm
by DE80q
OK, look like I have to measuring, and comparing to do. As luck would have it, I have a trashed(new) b3 bilstein port front insert. This should work well.
Will let you know what I do.e up with.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:06 pm
by DE80q
So, here's something kind of interesting. The body of the B3 bilstein is 1/8" longer, but sticks out of the strut housing 1/8" less. So, to make this work correctly, I need to make the over all housings length 1/4" shorter. Hmm... I'll see what I can figure out.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:45 pm
by Mcstiff
At some point I'll be replacing a strut in my 90 and could grab a measurement. If it helps, the length is "the same" as a urQ strut. I know this because I have a urQ strut in there now.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 2:35 am
by DE80q
Mcstiff wrote:At some point I'll be replacing a strut in my 90 and could grab a measurement. If it helps, the length is "the same" as a urQ strut. I know this because I have a urQ strut in there now.
Interesting. Koni lists the front UrQ strut to be the same as the B3 rear strut. I have a pair of those for my coilovers, I'll have to check into this.
Thanks
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:47 am
by DE80q
So its been a while, but thanks to deaner, I have a pair of B3 front housings, and a well blown UrS bilstein. I needed the housings as a sacrificial offering to the Audi gods to allow me to get the sizes I needed. And here is the result

When I cut off the same 50mm length off of the B3 strut housing, this is how it looked with the UrS bilstein insert.

A little too tall. I cut another 3/8" off the strut housing, and all was good. I got the 7/16" stick out I needed as per the UrS housing. I'm going to check the housing against a B3 rear(aka UrQ front) koni insert, and see what needs to be changed. I'm thinking I may need to make a change to them to use the koni inserts. I know the koni inserts use a spacer not only for alignment, but its also what the gland nut pushes on to keep the insert down.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:56 am
by 90quattrocoupe
Nice work
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:01 am
by DE80q
Thanks, they are not very complicated, just semi time consuming without the correct tubing. My plan is to order tubing with the ID and OD much closer to the finish sizes.
I also think I may need to shorten the BBSE, so that they can be run with the factory spring perch if so desired.
Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:32 am
by DE80q
So here is the final product. Came out well, I just need to reblast, and paint them before shipping them back to their home.

Re: BBSE question
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:15 am
by deaner
Nice! Looks great! Im stoked to get these things together! I got your text BTW, no cell service in the house and I'm chasing kids around so I can't go outside to text ya back haha. Effing iPhone.... I ordered up a set of CompBrakes 3 piece solid mounts so I'm curious to see how those work out too.
Thanks Dave!