The Project Pad

Anyone have a good source for these new?
I've bought them new in the past from Crescent (299.99ea) and Bensco (329.99). Unfortunately hurricane katrina wiped out Bensco and it's gone forever from what I find. I can't stomach paying 600-800 per when I used to buy pair with shipping for that price. Thanks guys.

Have you called Sunset Porsche in Oregon? (Call for best price, don't use website) They used to have the best prices. But the last I heard there weren't many (or any at all) left in the USA (993TT or 928GTS). Might be worth a call to see if any more were coming down the pipeline.

With the prices the big red/black on the rise, you might as well just start upgrading to one of the monobloc designs (996+). Or Brembo GTP, which is supposedly the replacement caliper. I read a post from 2004 that the original big red molds were reaching end of life, so that's why they've been slowly rising up in price and becoming harder to find.

996tt are ~$600 (online). I bet Sunset will beat that.

Centric 996tt reman calipers are $333 (no core) with Amazon Prime (Free 2-day shipping and excellent return/refund service if they aren't what you want)
http://www.amazon.com/Centric-142-37034 ... B000EPX85A
http://www.amazon.com/Centric-142-37033 ... B000EQ0154

Centric lists the following part numbers for 996tt, iron disc:
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo; Iron Disc Front Left
142.37034
1
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo; Iron Disc Front Right
142.37033
1

Looks like A1-Cardone prices out cheaper (<$300), but I can't find them in stock.
Cardone P/N:
Front Left
911 Turbo and Exc. Ceramic composite brakes
OE Metal Piston;First Source -Call For Avail. 19-3147
Front Right
911 Turbo and Exc. Ceramic composite brakes
OE Metal Piston;First Source -Call For Avail. 19-3146

Hmm... Cardone 993tt calipers are $150 with core price from Summit Racing. Who's going to be the guinea pig?

P/N
Front Left
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1942
Front Right
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1943

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1942
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1943

And Centric P/N for 993tt
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo Front Left
142.37054
1
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo Front Right
142.37053
1

Summit has them for $350 with core price
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-142-37054
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-142-37053

RockAuto has them for $280 with core price

Damn, I'll get a set for my 90. For that price I'll just re-rebuild them if need be.

alxdgr8 wrote:Hmm... Cardone 993tt calipers are $150 with core price from Summit Racing. Who's going to be the guinea pig?

P/N
Front Left
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1942
Front Right
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1943

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1942
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1943

Thanks, I might be the guinea pig

$150 for 993TT calipers?... I'd be very wary based on what they generally go for. Design 911 in the UK makes their own knockoffs, bench racers say they're junk but I have yet to find someone who has actually tried them.

vt10vt wrote:$150 for 993TT calipers?... I'd be very wary based on what they generally go for. Design 911 in the UK makes their own knockoffs, bench racers say they're junk but I have yet to find someone who has actually tried them.

I did some more research they seem to be a decent manufacturer of remanufactured calipers. I'm just afraid to get standard 993 calipers. they are not in stock and special order and take a month so I am calling about returning special orders now. Sunset was 690 new each. Still more than the last pair with shipping I purchased.

Toxcheap wrote:

vt10vt wrote:$150 for 993TT calipers?... I'd be very wary based on what they generally go for. Design 911 in the UK makes their own knockoffs, bench racers say they're junk but I have yet to find someone who has actually tried them.

I did some more research they seem to be a decent manufacturer of remanufactured calipers. I'm just afraid to get standard 993 calipers. they are not in stock and special order and take a month so I am calling about returning special orders now. Sunset was 690 new each. Still more than the last pair with shipping I purchased.

Take it all back these are not 993TT calipers, just standard 911 calipers

Toxcheap wrote:

Toxcheap wrote:

vt10vt wrote:$150 for 993TT calipers?... I'd be very wary based on what they generally go for. Design 911 in the UK makes their own knockoffs, bench racers say they're junk but I have yet to find someone who has actually tried them.

I did some more research they seem to be a decent manufacturer of remanufactured calipers. I'm just afraid to get standard 993 calipers. they are not in stock and special order and take a month so I am calling about returning special orders now. Sunset was 690 new each. Still more than the last pair with shipping I purchased.

Take it all back these are not 993TT calipers, just standard 911 calipers

I was going to say, big reds are hard to find and fetch a couple g in good shape. Anything boxster or less is junk really and not worth it imo

those cardone ones from summit come up at 102 ea, with my NHRA discount. just sayin.

and the centric are 200.

Toxcheap wrote:

Toxcheap wrote:

vt10vt wrote:$150 for 993TT calipers?... I'd be very wary based on what they generally go for. Design 911 in the UK makes their own knockoffs, bench racers say they're junk but I have yet to find someone who has actually tried them.

I did some more research they seem to be a decent manufacturer of remanufactured calipers. I'm just afraid to get standard 993 calipers. they are not in stock and special order and take a month so I am calling about returning special orders now. Sunset was 690 new each. Still more than the last pair with shipping I purchased.

Take it all back these are not 993TT calipers, just standard 911 calipers

How did you come up with that? Did you call Cardone?

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alxdgr8 wrote:Hmm... Cardone 993tt calipers are $150 with core price from Summit Racing. Who's going to be the guinea pig?

P/N
Front Left
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1942
Front Right
Turbo 3.6
OE Metal Piston;Supplied w/o Mounting Bracket 19-1943

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1942
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1943

And Centric P/N for 993tt
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo Front Left
142.37054
1
Calipers Posi-Quiet Loaded Caliper Turbo Front Right
142.37053
1

Summit has them for $350 with core price
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-142-37054
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-142-37053

RockAuto has them for $280 with core price

Neither of these are Big Reds. The bottom one is a caliper for a pre-964 911 I believe and the other I'm not sure exactly, but the mounting bosses are different than the big red. Looks like it could be a standard 993 caliper.

I would take the pics as a grain of salt, they're generally not accurate. I think someone really just needs to order some. I probably will when I get back from Battle Born.

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alxdgr8 wrote:I would take the pics as a grain of salt, they're generally not accurate. I think someone really just needs to order some. I probably will when I get back from Battle Born.

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I think you started with a bad PN, that part numbers also crosses to standard 993 calipers and has the same pics everywhere for those PN's. With a site like Summit I would take their pics with less salt than their fitment charts to be honest.

Again, big reds are really expensive, I can almost promise you're going to find them for $150 somewhere the Porsche world hasn't discovered. If you want the OE PN for big reds here's a link to the PET for the 993: http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/or ... ATALOG.pdf (it's actually the euro catalog because I'm lazy but calipers should be same PN)

Real big reds:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/99 ... 42610.html
http://www.design911.com/Brake-Caliper- ... 0/prod973/

Knockoffs:
http://www.design911.com/Brake-Calipers ... prod13420/

vt10vt wrote:

alxdgr8 wrote:I would take the pics as a grain of salt, they're generally not accurate. I think someone really just needs to order some. I probably will when I get back from Battle Born.

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I think you started with a bad PN, that part numbers also crosses to standard 993 calipers and has the same pics everywhere for those PN's. With a site like Summit I would take their pics with less salt than their fitment charts to be honest.

Again, big reds are really expensive, I can almost promise you're going to find them for $150 somewhere the Porsche world hasn't discovered. If you want the OE PN for big reds here's a link to the PET for the 993: http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/or ... ATALOG.pdf (it's actually the euro catalog because I'm lazy but calipers should be same PN)

Real big reds:
http://www.suncoastparts.com/product/99 ... 42610.html
http://www.design911.com/Brake-Caliper- ... 0/prod973/

Knockoffs:
http://www.design911.com/Brake-Calipers ... prod13420/

Doh, you're right. Those are 964 3.6 turbo calipers not 993tt.

Here's the right Cardone p/n for 993tt:
Front Left
911 Turbo, Carrera 4S
OE Metal Piston 19-1954
Front Right
911 Turbo, Carrera 4S
OE Metal Piston 19-1955

Which cross references with the 993tt p/n
PORSCHE 92835142402
PORSCHE 99335142510
BENDIX R47088
BENDIX SL47088
WAGNER CR133927
VW 993 351 425 10

Not in stock anywhere though.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/aaz-19-1954
$65 + $50 core; out of stock
http://www.carid.com/cardone/front-rust ... AhOA8P8HAQ
Low stock, email for availability
http://www.myautopartswholesale.com/cat ... ne/19-1955
Says it ships in 3-5 days
http://www.buyautopartsonline.ca/catalo ... ne/19-1954

You can nearly make out the p/n in the Cardone picture:



The Centric p/n are still correct though.

Pic looks like Big Red




$200 + $150 core from Summit, available for order (estimated 2 weeks to ship)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-1 ... AnKc8P8HAQ
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ceb-1 ... Aqry8P8HAQ

So are these so affordable because they're remanufactured Brembo calipers with fresh parts, or Centric/Cardone knockoffs?

PRY4SNO wrote:So are these so affordable because they're remanufactured Brembo calipers with fresh parts, or Centric/Cardone knockoffs?

I imagine they're remans, I don't think they're knockoffs. My bet is that even though Summit allows you to order them, they're not available.

I called and Summit discontinued you them because not only are they special order and usually back ordered but from past sale history they fail to deliver and customers are stuck waiting forever and never receiving parts.

Toxcheap wrote:I called and Summit discontinued you them because not only are they special order and usually back ordered but from past sale history they fail to deliver and customers are stuck waiting forever and never receiving parts.

Good to know, thanks!

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