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Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:22 pm
by da_trem
Looking at retorquing my ARP cylinder head bolts. Information about that is misleading. Some do, some don't.

Mine where torqued once at 80lbs/ft. Should I be concerned ?

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:53 pm
by amd is the best
da_trem wrote:Looking at retorquing my ARP cylinder head bolts. Information about that is misleading. Some do, some don't.

Mine where torqued once at 80lbs/ft. Should I be concerned ?


Which kit do you have? If undercut (ARP 204-4704) retorquing is not necessary as they are technically stretch studs, kind of like OEM. If non-undercut, then retorquing may be a necessity.

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:18 pm
by da_trem
Undercut set. No retorque then.

Thanks a lot!
Dave

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:56 pm
by bradyzq
No personal experience here (my 3B is stock, head bolt-wise), but I remember someone posting about needing washers under the nut to help spread the load and avoid digging in to the head. I think it was chaloux who wrote about this.

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:51 pm
by boost_addict
it always good to check or re-torque any head studs undercut or not. I torque mine to 85 in steps. 50, 70, 85

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:22 pm
by AngryTaco
bradyzq wrote:No personal experience here (my 3B is stock, head bolt-wise), but I remember someone posting about needing washers under the nut to help spread the load and avoid digging in to the head. I think it was chaloux who wrote about this.



The ARP kits come with washers. It's the used sets that dont ;)

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:22 pm
by AngryTaco
boost_addict wrote:it always good to check or re-torque any head studs undercut or not. I torque mine to 85 in steps. 50, 70, 85


x2

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 10:41 am
by bradyzq
AngryTaco wrote:
bradyzq wrote:No personal experience here (my 3B is stock, head bolt-wise), but I remember someone posting about needing washers under the nut to help spread the load and avoid digging in to the head. I think it was chaloux who wrote about this.



The ARP kits come with washers. It's the used sets that dont ;)


Yes, I am aware of that. ;)

BIGGER washers needed to avoid cutting into the head by not distributing the load enough.

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:04 am
by chaloux
With the new torque spec after people lifted heads.

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 9:57 am
by da_trem
Oh well, i'll recheck these anyways since I'm in need of a new timing chain. Cams are already off. I'll come back to you with results as retorquing was necessary or not.

As for the supplied washers in the ARP kit, I not using these. I've ordered HD ones from Thuppu on S2 forum.

If anyone needs ARP head washers, just let me know.

Thuppu's HD head washers:
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Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 4:40 am
by da_trem
Did my timing chain last night. Rechecked torque of the head studs nuts. They were all within specs, the undercut set I have haven't loosened a bit.

Re: Question torque on ARP cylinder head studs

Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 5:59 am
by glibobbo21
Those washers are sexy. Also...I always retorque, undercut or not. 07k wont take the bigger washers because ARP made them proper the first time. ;-)