Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - BBQ prep - the countdown begins

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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby 85oceanic » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:13 am

PRY4SNO wrote:Sorry to hear! But sometimes it's for the best... growing pains and all.

Why make a separate order for the TB kit from AutohausAZ? Since you're doing a big order from 034, might as well just include the TB kit and save on shipping costs. Also, what's the down time difference between FRP and IMS for the head work? I'd factor that in, as well.


True story! I will most likely use IROZ for the majority of my work as they are less than thirty minutes from my house. Then FRP and 034 for anything else. Autohausaz will be my last go-to. This parts list is pretty flexible as I haven't started ordering yet. 8-)
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby PRY4SNO » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:38 pm

All reputable vendors. I was just thinking along the lines of logistics :)

Have you considered upgrading the s/s valves to inconel? For the record, I opted for s/s exhaust valves but am curious about your manner of approach.
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby ringbearer » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:20 pm

I'd say sorry but I'm actually excited to see what you do with it!
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby chaloux » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:51 pm

I wrote a reply but it got baleeted somehow.

Did you at least pull the Merc before kablammo? I dunno about the short deck + 95.5 crank... its gonna be a revkiller. Would it be enough to change cam profiles? I dunno. Just something to think about. I'd try to find the unicorn 92.8 crank if I was you.
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby 85oceanic » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:53 pm

chaloux wrote:I wrote a reply but it got baleeted somehow.

Did you at least pull the Merc before kablammo? I dunno about the short deck + 95.5 crank... its gonna be a revkiller. Would it be enough to change cam profiles? I dunno. Just something to think about. I'd try to find the unicorn 92.8 crank if I was you.


Yes, on boost I was creeping on him. It was a really good battle. I certainly considered that crank as an option as well, but I think building a reliable high RPM engine is fairly cost prohibitive and I think the 271 cams will do well even with limiting RPMs to 7900. Also, moving from 2.22l to 2.5l will be in my favor in terms of making solid power. :P I can't wait to see how it does!
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby Afterthought » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:51 pm

85oceanic wrote:
chaloux wrote:I wrote a reply but it got baleeted somehow.

Did you at least pull the Merc before kablammo? I dunno about the short deck + 95.5 crank... its gonna be a revkiller. Would it be enough to change cam profiles? I dunno. Just something to think about. I'd try to find the unicorn 92.8 crank if I was you.


Yes, on boost I was creeping on him. It was a really good battle. I certainly considered that crank as an option as well, but I think building a reliable high RPM engine is fairly cost prohibitive and I think the 271 cams will do well even with limiting RPMs to 7900. Also, moving from 2.22l to 2.5l will be in my favor in terms of making solid power. :P I can't wait to see how it does!


So wait ... educate me, Is the “short deck” built using the eurovan crank in the AAN block?
I have a friend who just built up an AAN with this and let me drive it , it was really impressive. Just under 500 whp at only 22 psi and max torque before 3700 rpm with a newer Xona rotor turbo
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby chaloux » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:10 pm

Short deck stroker is just stock AAN block with either a 95.5mm crank or 92.8mm crank, 144mm rods, and shortened (wrist pin to piston top) pistons.
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby mushasho » Wed May 02, 2018 10:03 am

chaloux wrote:Short deck stroker is just stock AAN block with either a 95.5mm crank or 92.8mm crank, 144mm rods, and shortened (wrist pin to piston top) pistons.


If you're ok with a 7200 rpm limit, then it's a sound plan... Well unless something has changed in stroker development...

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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby 85oceanic » Wed May 02, 2018 10:28 am

mushasho wrote:
chaloux wrote:Short deck stroker is just stock AAN block with either a 95.5mm crank or 92.8mm crank, 144mm rods, and shortened (wrist pin to piston top) pistons.


If you're ok with a 7200 rpm limit, then it's a sound plan... Well unless something has changed in stroker development...

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I will call Jeff and discuss. I would really hate to be limited to 7200 rpm. :wtf:
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - I blew up

Postby mushasho » Wed May 02, 2018 10:30 am

85oceanic wrote:
mushasho wrote:
chaloux wrote:Short deck stroker is just stock AAN block with either a 95.5mm crank or 92.8mm crank, 144mm rods, and shortened (wrist pin to piston top) pistons.


If you're ok with a 7200 rpm limit, then it's a sound plan... Well unless something has changed in stroker development...

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I will call Jeff and discuss. I would really hate to be limited to 7200 rpm. :wtf:


I agree... if the reliable limit is 7200, might as well run an OEM cam and get all the spool back into the usable range.
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - BBQ prep

Postby 85oceanic » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:05 am

Update time guys. So I really want my car to back up and running for Battleborn this year so I've had to temper my expectations for what can be completed prior to the event. I performed removal and diagnosis of the engine and found I spun my #1 rod bearing. After some deliberation, I decided to have IROZ build the bottom end. I really wanted to go for a stroker for some time but ultimately I feel that my driving style really enjoys the upper RPM and I really love to hear that 5 cylinder sing! So it's going to remain the stock stroke and step up to a 82mm pistons. Also, the cams will finally be getting installed. Over the last couple of months I have been taking care of small things here and there.

Exhaust and charge pipe / AWIC system revised...

AWIC:

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Exhaust:

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Also engine removed and off to rebuild...

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Anyways guys, that's it for now. I don't have a lot of time for a written update today. I will fill in the details later. I hope to see some of you guys at BBQ this year!
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - BBQ prep - the countdown begins

Postby ringbearer » Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:32 pm

Sweet! Moving the right direction :)
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - BBQ prep - the countdown begins

Postby A20V200 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:59 pm

Nice work Ben. Hopefully Hank isn't too busy with all the newer RS stuff and get you ready for BB!
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Re: Ben's Oceanic 4kqt - BBQ prep - the countdown begins

Postby lorge1989 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:13 am

Glad to hear it will be back running soon. :thumbsup:
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