Loxxrider's 200 20v Revver: See you on "The Project Pad"

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:06 am

sending pm marc

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:30 pm

So the ECU is with Kevin now and he just has to make a connector for it and load the firmware. It should be here next week. I soooo hope my problems will be gone this time lol.

In the meantime I ordered a new VC gasket, a new oil filter, and most importantly a multi-function temp sensor which I hope will correct a lot of problems.

Soooo when I'm doing the VC gasket, Ill probably install the set of 7A cams I have lying around. I should really just wait and put them in the head I am going to build...but Im not that patient. That will come far down the road. Soooo any tips for cam install are appreciated. I will be fine, but its always good to get the tips

123quattro · Post by **123quattro** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:57 pm

Be sure you have a good torque wrench when you torque the cam caps. I did not the last time, and had to do a lot of extra work to get my head back to working order. Also double check that the dots are lined up. It's easy for one cam to jump a tooth on the sprocket as you are dropping them down into the head. And...replace your cam gear. Factory ones explode at high rpm sometimes.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:29 pm

ahhh gotcha. I will keep that in mind. Thanks. Also, I have heard of putting the caps on in a certain order, etc.

bimmerboy · Post by **bimmerboy** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:16 pm

loxxrider wrote:ahhh gotcha. I will keep that in mind. Thanks. Also, I have heard of putting the caps on in a certain order, etc.

Are these numbered? If not just make sure to put them back from where they came. Or else the bore will be off and break your cam

123quattro · Post by **123quattro** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:21 pm

The caps are certainly numbered. I think he meant torquing them down in a certain sequence? I just tried to evenly pull the cam down.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:18 pm

Yeah, I did mean a sequence. I do have the shop manual and a good friend with experience to help out, so I trust that will be enough. I almost had my first complete bottom end build experience last weekend, but the block hadn't been decked so we had to abandon that.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:52 pm

So the MFTS didn't fix my AC problem. Bummer. But the car isn't in limp mode anymore. That went away before the temp sensor. I'm assuming it was related to overboosting in cold weather or something.

At least I have a spare now. The connector for it (not on the MFTS) is pretty ratty though. I'm going to order a new one and put that in as soon as I can.

I guess I'll be looking into more reasons for the AC to be out. That leaves the AC, steering rack, and one headlight (hopefully just a bulb) that I need to fix. Not too shabby haha.

Other than that, I just ordered some parts for my computer to freshen it up a bit.

Old specs:
Enermax 500w PSU
AMD Athlon X2 4600+
NVIDIA 7800 GT
2 gigs of some sick nasty Mushkin ram
M2N32 SLI Deluxe mobo
hard drives, yadda yadda

New specs will include a new AMD Phantom 9600 CPU and a NVIDIA 9800gt.

That should be enough to keep it running all the new games on high until the new AM3 socket comes out and I need to just do a whole new rig. It only cost me like 165 when you take the rebates and such into consideration. :woowoo:

Hopefully the VEMS is still on track for arrival next week (again)

LostinMaine · Post by **LostinMaine** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:55 pm

wow nice deal where you get that off of, i just blew up my 8600gt oc

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:10 pm

I got it from newegg. The deal was about 109 for the CPU...then the GPU had a $40 instant rebate I believe, then a $25 mail-in rebate on top of that...and then it comes with Call of Duty 5 which I already have a buyer for...so its about $55 when you take that all into account.

I do everything I can to justify my purchases

But yeah here are the links...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103244

and I think they just lowered the price on this and call it a smaller rebate since I bought it last night...but it still works out to about the same price said and done.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814121268

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:14 pm

Well I just got back from my first suspension install (on an E36 M3) and it was a lot of fun. I learned soooo much. I cant wait to explore my options soon including machining my brake parts.

The only thing I got accomplished on the 200 was I put some new bulbs in. When I pulled them out, the date on one was june 06...the other...june 90.

Yes, 1990. Apparently the original light JUST now burned out about a week ago hahah.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:49 pm

So some more thoughts.

I am a little stuck on the suspension/brake stuff right now since I just did an install...and I really cant spend anything more on the go-in-a-straight-line parts after the standalone is in...at least until the summer when I can have a job.

So I have been scheming about my future brake/suspension setup. I still think I want to go with bags for suspension. Mainly because of the adjustability they offer. Basically I would have to upgrade brakes and suspension at the same time though because I am assuming I'd have to get some bilstein struts for a g60 for the bag setup.

Then from there I could just swap in any brake setup I like that would bolt to G60 struts correct? I would really like to just make brackets and use the stock UFO housings, but it just doesn't make sense when I consider my future modification path.

cuatrokoop · Post by **cuatrokoop** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:09 am

Why would the housing make a difference on springs/dampers? AFAIK, those two items are the same UFO to G60 housing.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:44 am

Aren't the G60 and UFO strut housings completely different where they bolt up to the brakes? That is what I was trying to get at.

I would want to use the G60 ones because noone makes high performance struts in a UFO configuration (or brake setups)...and I don't really want to keep my UFO's.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:39 pm

I think I have figures out one of my problems. from this post...

"Well I still dont have the standalone management on my car yet VEMS. Thats a long story though. Im basically waiting on a second unit to get here because the first one was messed up.

Anyway, lately the car has been acting up a bit. It started on a long trip one day when it wouldn't boost above 1.4 bar. It felt kinda like a fuel cut whenever it would get up to that boost level. Just almost like some kind of a soft cut. I thought it was probably limp mode from overboosting or something. One day it just randomly went away and ran fine.

Today I went to go for a drive and the thing was missing at idle pretty bad at times, and it wouldn't even get into any boost at all without that soft cut thing. Then later on I drove it again and it wasn't really missing at idle at all, but it was cutting out at right about 1.4 bar again.

The only thing that I know of thats wrong with the car that could be related at the moment is that it needs a new valve cover and its leaking a little oil onto the spark plugs. I have the gasket, just haven't had the time to put it on. Other than that, I'm stuck as to what it could be for now."

I'm pretty damn sure its because of moisure in the dizzy. Both times it has happened, its been raining out. Makes me happy that I chose to ditch the dizzy for the SEM...too bad its still not here.

**edit** now that its not raining/wet out, shes running like a champ!

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:59 pm

Woooooooo!

I just got the launch control working (on the old ECU)...its sooooo effin cool

I just got really bored and wanted to do something constructive, so I wired it all up even though I can't really use it right now because my clutch sucks and because the current ECU isn't stable enough to be driving on. BUT we did get to do some tests, and its just so wicked.

Now all I have to get the new ecu and I can get the serious antilag setup.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:53 am

So I pulled more timing on the launch control, and it builds 15psi (my limit) in neutral like nothing. I don't even have to try. Its pulling 30 degrees right now. (was 20 before and only building about 7psi) I don't have an EGT, but I don't think fuel needs to be added yet. I can't wait to get a clutch in and try out some launches. It should be nice with the drivetrain preloaded and awaiting the full boost off of the line. ECU will be here today or tomorrow. Hopefully that cures the problem. If it doesn't, then it HAS to be an ignition wiring problem. The ECU resets I'm getting in the logs leads me to believe it can't be the latter though.

In other news, I dreamed that I was in the Audi and was beating up on a new Evo X

(don't think the dude knew how to drive haha)

123quattro · Post by **123quattro** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:37 am

Be careful with anti-lag. It dumps TONS of heat into your turbo. It's basically external combustion. Fun stuff, and how I broke my header. 20 launches tuning it with Preston and I broke some welds.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:44 am

Yeah, I know its pretty bad. You can add fuel in order to keep the EGT's down though. I'm definitely not going to be using it all the time, but as a light launch control, I'll definitely be using it (like 20 deg. of timing pull). I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression that its nowhere near as bad with light timing pull like that (maybe lighter). Its just enough to keep the RPM's in the same spot, but it wont make the crazy flameouts, etc.

On the other hand, if my turbo broke...I wouldn't be that unhappy.

It would just be time for a Holset.

88AudiQuattro · Post by **88AudiQuattro** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:34 pm

If you are having misfires during the wet and not during the dry, I would look into changing ignition parts for sure. If it was an ECU problem, it would misfire in the dry as well.

Sounds like you're having fun.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:40 pm

Yeah, its definitely the Dizzy getting moisture that is causing the issues. Luckily I just need it for a backup.

123quattro · Post by **123quattro** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:26 pm

loxxrider wrote:Yeah, I know its pretty bad. You can add fuel in order to keep the EGT's down though. I'm definitely not going to be using it all the time, but as a light launch control, I'll definitely be using it (like 20 deg. of timing pull). I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression that its nowhere near as bad with light timing pull like that (maybe lighter). Its just enough to keep the RPM's in the same spot, but it wont make the crazy flameouts, etc.

How are you holding the engine speed down only pulling 20 degrees of timing? I'm pulling more like 50 and it still has a hard time keeping it at 5500 rpm. Are you not going WOT? We did set mine up to run around 10:1 with anti-lag engaged but it still gets sooper dooper hot.

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:46 pm

123quattro wrote:
loxxrider wrote:Yeah, I know its pretty bad. You can add fuel in order to keep the EGT's down though. I'm definitely not going to be using it all the time, but as a light launch control, I'll definitely be using it (like 20 deg. of timing pull). I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression that its nowhere near as bad with light timing pull like that (maybe lighter). Its just enough to keep the RPM's in the same spot, but it wont make the crazy flameouts, etc.

How are you holding the engine speed down only pulling 20 degrees of timing? I'm pulling more like 50 and it still has a hard time keeping it at 5500 rpm. Are you not going WOT? We did set mine up to run around 10:1 with anti-lag engaged but it still gets sooper dooper hot.

I'm not sure,but here is what my screen looks like...and yes, I'm definitely going WOT. I can sit there all day at 4 or 4500 on that 20 deg. pull. I haven't tried it up around 5500 or anything like that, but I would imagine it would hold it down just as well.

Attachment ( 14927 ) : launch control.jpg

loxxrider · Post by **loxxrider** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:18 pm

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

so I have a brand spankin new ECU...and it still does the same thing. You can watch this thread if you are interested. http://195.159.109.134/vemsuk/forum/ind ... 757.0.html

Post by **Marc** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:38 pm

If Kevin can't sort the issue I can consult on it if you'd like. You can send me the ECU and I'll debug it for you/him. Contact me for details.