Strut Mount Solutions

[Audilard]

I'm wanting to replace my strut mounts and am researching the issue for my 1989 80. Mance mount savers are out there, but in limited supply and possibly unobtainable. What options are out there? Solids? Mount Savers? Stock? Aftermarket?

Thoughts and opinions wanted. Lead me to the best and where to order from.

Thanks,

[Mcstiff]

I'm in the same spot, mount savers are sold out (possibly NLA), Density mounts are questionable, 2b is overpriced, I forget the UK company, and H has the full boat MS mounts.

I'm thinking H will be my ultimate solution though I wish something more stock looking would be nice.

[Audilard]

Sorry, what is H?

[Mcstiff]

Hayden, HT Motorsports

Compbrake are the other one's I was thinking of, I think they'll do an offset with extra camber by request. Sean, John, and Aaron?? ordered some last year?? http://www.compbrake.com/suspension/top ... ounts.html

[PRY4SNO]

Compbrake are the other one's I was thinking of, I think they'll do an offset with extra camber by request. Sean, John, and Aaron?? ordered some last year?? http://www.compbrake.com/suspension/top ... ounts.html

Haven't even read mixed reviews about the Compbrake ones on S2F; by memory about 85%-90% of what reviews/mentions I'd read were unfavourable... ranging from too stiff/jarring to falling apart after minimal use.

Any contrary info to offer?

[speeding-g60]

yeah, i got 14 of the ones from Compbrake. mine are fine, i hardly use the car though. i did read some people dont like them but i have no issue as of yet.

that was when i got them for some other members so they could save expensive shipping from the UK to here.

[audifreakjim]

You could try beefing up your own mounts, get some new Meyle HD's, and fill the middle with some liquid polyurethane. This is kind of re-inventing Mance mounts, but you have to do what you have to do.
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/pr ... rod=DIYMMI

I would probably go with the harder compound. If it were me, I would wrap the retaining cup with a couple of mm of tape essentially creating a spacer, assemble the mount, tape off the bearing and fill. Then pop out the cup after it's dry, remove the tape and run it. It's tough to say how much space you really need to allow for between the filler and retaining cup, but you can always cut some out of you need to.

[Mcstiff]

Compbrake are the other one's I was thinking of, I think they'll do an offset with extra camber by request. Sean, John, and Aaron?? ordered some last year?? http://www.compbrake.com/suspension/top ... ounts.html

Haven't even read mixed reviews about the Compbrake ones on S2F; by memory about 85%-90% of what reviews/mentions I'd read were unfavourable... ranging from too stiff/jarring to falling apart after minimal use.

Any contrary info to offer?

I'm not sure how they could be stiffer than any other solid spherical bearing. Not that that means they are good.

[PRY4SNO]

I'm not sure how they could be stiffer than any other solid spherical bearing. Not that that means they are good.

Well, if they're going to be solid at least they won't separate like the poly ones do. Spending a few hundred a year on alignments and new mounts is ridiculous.

[SEStone]

The major problem with the compbrake mounts is that they put the spring loads through the spherical bearing axially. The moment you hit the bumpstop (which is easy to do on these cars), they'll see loads that are enough to wear the bearing out. Unfortunately you have to go to something like a GC camber plate to get a proper upper strut mount for these cars that accurately locates and secures the damper but is properly designed to support ride loads of the car.

Sam

[Mcstiff]

The major problem with the compbrake mounts is that they put the spring loads through the spherical bearing axially. The moment you hit the bumpstop (which is easy to do on these cars), they'll see loads that are enough to wear the bearing out. Unfortunately you have to go to something like a GC camber plate to get a proper upper strut mount for these cars that accurately locates and secures the damper but is properly designed to support ride loads of the car.

Sam

Yeah, it is too bad they do not have the additional bearing like the GCs. It looks like the 2Bs actually have the extra bearing but $495 a pair is a bit steep IMO.

[Audilard]

So will Hayden's setup or the 2 bennett's work with Variant 3s?

[PRA4WX]

I have comp brake mounts front and rear. Mine are perfect, but have little use. I think i'll be selling a set to go to a weld in solution for the front.....but am a little undecided....

[quattro87]

Just saw this post.....I've had the Comps on my Urq now for about 10k miles and havent had any problems to speak of. That said, they are noisier which is to be expected going with a solid setup. The one thing that I really like about them is the ease of pulling the one piece struts now that I have the Comps especially the rears. Like Sam points out, it's pretty easy to bottom out the bump stops on these cars and especially if lowered at all like mine is. I have smacked the crap out of the stops, almost as much as I've bounced the rev limiter, but they still seem to be holding together. I want to go coilovers soon and will be taking the comps off at that time....probably a good time to look them over and see how they are really holding up. One other thing on the Comps....they weren't cheap either, especially after factoring in the garbage we took from 034 to get them here. I think that is when Aaron and I slowed down our posting on MG. :(

[El Guapo]

I'm wanting to replace my strut mounts and am researching the issue for my 1989 80. Mance mount savers are out there, but in limited supply and possibly unobtainable. What options are out there? Solids? Mount Savers? Stock? Aftermarket?

Thoughts and opinions wanted. Lead me to the best and where to order from.

Thanks,

I picked up some of this last run of Mount Savers, they are incredibly simple and you could probably have a set made and solve all of your potential problems easily.

[speeding-g60]

One other thing on the Comps....they weren't cheap either, especially after factoring in the garbage we took from 034 to get them here. I think that is when Aaron and I slowed down our posting on MG. :(

yeah, that was definitely a big negative from the powers that be. glad though that you have gotten some real miles out of them. mine dont see hardly any

[PRY4SNO]

These look interesting.

Any thoughts?

Bought them from a swedish company : http://sellholm.se

go to: FJÄDRING, then Toppmont/Tillbehör, then you will see Audi in the middle of the page

Big thanks to Chris, aka audi-szwei on Audizine for the tip.

[Mcstiff]

KW lists some http://www.kw-suspension.co.uk/competit ... php?vid=19

[Goldenquattro]

Since I haven't gotten a response on the geek here I am. I'm talking to comp brake and was going to order a set of their solid front mounts. The price is ok, and shipping isn't bad at all. They do ask me to specify the 'sleeve nut size'. which I do not know. I told them I have KWs and the threads up top should be the same as an OEM coupe quattro. Am I right? I wanna say it's M14 but am not sure. Anybody know?

[Toph]

Stock is 14x1.5. If you drive up to NH, I can measure yours for you....or take that gas money and buy a metric dial caliper

[Noisy Cricket]

The VW rally guys cut the dome out, drill a couple holes, and bolt Subaru top-hats in.

Wonder if it's that easy for the Audi chassis.

[PRA4WX]

Since I haven't gotten a response on the geek here I am. I'm talking to comp brake and was going to order a set of their solid front mounts. The price is ok, and shipping isn't bad at all. They do ask me to specify the 'sleeve nut size'. which I do not know. I told them I have KWs and the threads up top should be the same as an OEM coupe quattro. Am I right? I wanna say it's M14 but am not sure. Anybody know?

I believe this is right. I have them front and rear, and have KW's as well.

[ur20v]

So, I know the Germans engineer the bump stops to be an "active" part of their suspensions, but, what can we do to reduce the reliance on them? Higher rate springs? Springs with more coils? Even bigger bump stops?

I have always lusted over the Comp Brake top mounts but never pulled the trigger. I would hate to spend that much money on them and have them wear out quickly.

[PRY4SNO]

These look like they're worth consideration, regardless of the cost. Seems like the spec commands a premium.

Any thoughts?


http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=66953

[PRY4SNO]

Really? Nobody has any thoughts or criticisms of those beefy looking solid mounts?!?! My only inclination is they're expensive (100 GBP+bearing per corner) but the fact there's an integrated strut brace just ices the cake.