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Tacos 4KTQ I0vt Swap: The Red Baron - buying parts again
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Sparkplug Damage P
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Sparkplug Damage P
I'm going! I have a helper now with this car so either things are going to move faster with the mechanical, or I'm going to be getting nothing done at all (on the car at least)
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Sparkplug Damage P
So you are going to make your 20v head into a 20v head by re-shaping the CC? Why not just drop on a 3b head an be done with it? You will have the same low CR ratio in the end.
It is painful to sit back and watch this.
It is painful to sit back and watch this.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
jim, what do you know about the benefits of 20v vs. 20v or limits of the 20v head anyways?
oh wait......
oh wait......
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Maybe because I'm reserving the 20v for another project. 
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- audifreakjim
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Ok, that's less painful if you keep yourself from pushing the 20v too far and use it for what it is.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Sparkplug Damage P
audifreakjim wrote:So you are going to make your 20v head into a 20v head by re-shaping the CC? Why not just drop on a 3b head an be done with it? You will have the same low CR ratio in the end.
It is painful to sit back and watch this.
yes!!!
has no one told taco, that theres no cookie at the end of the rainbow for 4xxwhateveritmakes WHP?
just 20v that lemon already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Not trying to hate here man, but seriously, you need to just find a used 7a head or 3B head (talk to Dan) and throw the beast on that block to make some real power. You'll be fighting the design of the 20v head until the day you die if you keep with it.
-Ben-

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -

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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Pay no mind, to the "haters," Taco! Real true's stay 20v for life! ;-p
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Stick to the 20v, but be smart about it.
-Phil
87 5ktq - 20vt
91 v8 5spd - Why?
05 S4 - Gone and very much so forgotten
14 TDI Touareg
-Terrible at responding to PM's
87 5ktq - 20vt
91 v8 5spd - Why?
05 S4 - Gone and very much so forgotten
14 TDI Touareg
-Terrible at responding to PM's
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
+ realistic. Do what YOU wanna do. I'm a fan of both 20v and 20v motors.pilihp2 wrote:Stick to the 20v, but be smart about it.
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
I used to run off almost entirely spite. But yeah… it would be pretty cheap to make your power goals with a junkyard head….
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
#3 piston is toast. Will post pics later tonight
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2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
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Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
bummer man. what happened?
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Still not going to get a wideband for this thing?
I'll sell you an entire 5ktq....but the block also needs work most likely
I'll sell you an entire 5ktq....but the block also needs work most likely
-Alex-
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1985 Audi 4kq
2003 Audi S8 (Avus/Oxblood; DD; 6MT swap)
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1992 Porsche 968 (07K transplant in progress)
1983 Aud UrQ (MC1, GT2871R, IIc)
1985 Audi 4kq
2003 Audi S8 (Avus/Oxblood; DD; 6MT swap)
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
I have a 3b engine with no intake manifold a few other things (still has wire harness and ecu) sitting in the garage, and I also have a 7a head minus camshafts right next to it. Also, I have a 200 20vt that runs and drives that im going to part one of these days. Has fresh valve job with AAN HG and ARP headstuds and exhaust studs. Just an FYI 
Dan
1984 Ur quattro
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1984 Ur quattro
1985 4000 S QUATTRO Crashed 4KQ + 40v S8 engine + tubing bender + My BFF =
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Buy that and don't look back. You'll love your newfound power gains and reliability.40v4kq wrote:I have a 3b engine with no intake manifold a few other things (still has wire harness and ecu) sitting in the garage, and I also have a 7a head minus camshafts right next to it. Also, I have a 200 20vt that runs and drives that im going to part one of these days. Has fresh valve job with AAN HG and ARP headstuds and exhaust studs. Just an FYI
-Ben-

-1985 Audi 4kq: Xona 7164 AAN 488whp- -2009 Audi A4 -

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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day



1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
Holy fuck!
Matt
18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
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GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
11 Jetta sedan TDI DSG, rear muffler delete
GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
HOLY SHIT MAN!!! That is worse than the pistons I pulled from my free MC1 block, and the rings were melted into the pistons!
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1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
2019 Chevy Cruze RS hatch (wife's little red sporty car)
Dallastown, PA
1991 Audi 80 quattro (20vt project)
1991 Audi Coupe Quattro (project: my first 20v)
2007 Mitsubishi Raider(Dakota in disguise)
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
That should buff out 
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Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
So igloo partially came off allowing a lean mixture for some period of time while you gunned it up the hill? If it suddenly popped off why all the damage? Wouldn't it just cause a sudden fuel cutoff because of the metering plate closing? Or did you start killing it as soon as you turned up the boost becuase the Natrix chip has too much timing for the cylinder pressures that you are running?10 miles into the cruise, I get on it hard going up hill and then I lose all power with a HUGE smokescreen suddenly behind the car. Check the engine....fucking igloo popped off the CIS dizzy. The cylinder rings were already smoking, so I pretty much expediated the death of the current ones.
I'm only running 14 degrees at torque peak at 16 to 18 psi with an even 11.0:1 AFR. With 92 octane It keeps the det light from blinking at me under most conditions (unless I lug it up a hill or have bad gas) And I don't have "the cam" or a K24-7400. Just a lowly old K26.
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
aren't you also running mc2 pistons with mc1 ignition?
I did this once with EFI and chipped mc1 ecu, it was nocky nocky nock.
I did this once with EFI and chipped mc1 ecu, it was nocky nocky nock.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
dana wrote:aren't you also running mc2 pistons with mc1 ignition?
I did this once with EFI and chipped mc1 ecu, it was nocky nocky nock.
Yes I was. I never had a knock problem even with the increased boost. I routinely checked the spark plugs for signs of knock and never had issues.
I'm honestly not sure if the det started after I fixed the initial boost issue or what. I have an idea of how I am going to go about now with the rebuild or engine swap. That's all I'm going to say for now but I believe the route I am going to go will surprise most people.
1986 4000cs Turbo Quattro
2001 Dodge Dakota R/T Standard Cab
1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
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1990 V8 quattro
1995 urS6
-Hersh Performance and Racing Products-
Most orders are being refused until further notice. Please PM
Powerflex Dealer
#thuglife
Re: Tacos 4KTQ 20vt Swap: The Red Baron - Inspection Day
two days and no drama?
is everything ok?
is everything ok?
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