Marc's 1990 4.2L V8 Twin Turbo Coupe Quattro

Post by **Marc** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:01 pm

Toxcheap wrote:
a4kquattro wrote:
timmmy wrote:[quote="a4kquattro"][quote="timmmy"]:bashtard: :slap: ..............thatll learn ya

I got to learn something from a mistake that wasnt mine for a change...I knew it would happen eventually (Sorry Mark;) )

H

you're welcome, I think

its all good, that just means you get to help me drag the car home for the rear main seal R&R, if you want, pretty please, with toluene on top? :-D

No problemo, Just LMK when you want to do it.

You should do it at Derek and Myk's though if you can get it on a lift it will be much easier to drop the gearbox.....or do you need to pull the whole shebang given all your other stuff in there?

Well, the goal is to have everything out of the garage by x-mas.

yes, replacing the rear main on the lift would be ideal, but the garage is really packed and the lift is in use most of the time so I think it makes more sense to just worry about it when I get it home where I'll be able to work on it at my own pace (I have to drive an hour to get to the shop).

H[/quote][/quote]
Marc if you want to use the lift for a weekend no problem, just let me know and we'll move cars around.[/quote]

Thats a nice offer and I might take you up on it. Although I might need your help without a tranny jack to help get the transmission out of the way with the car still in the air :-P

Toxcheap · Post by **Toxcheap** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:54 pm

No problem I'll take it out for you but you're putting it back in

(ps all removing it take's is the car a couple feet off the ground and a couple junk tires for it to land on. In regards to putting back in ask Den for help, he gave me a hand and it slid right to the block first try. He must be good luck cuz that's a first for me in many tranny/clutch jobs)

JShadzi · Post by **JShadzi** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:27 pm

a4kquattro wrote:I then unplugged the gray harness (sensors) and got the flash (as well as the gpo for my fuel pump turning on..). So then I started unplugging sensors one at a time and discovered that by unplugging the TPS I was able to get the ecu to turn on and the car to start

Marc, check the pinouts on the TPS, I may have had an AAN TPS on my PT for V80, AAN pins out 1-3, PT is the opposite side of the connector. Swapping in a 3B/AAN TPS would be a quick fix assuming its still wired for the AAN.

HTH,

Post by **Marc** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:38 pm

JShadzi wrote:
a4kquattro wrote:I then unplugged the gray harness (sensors) and got the flash (as well as the gpo for my fuel pump turning on..). So then I started unplugging sensors one at a time and discovered that by unplugging the TPS I was able to get the ecu to turn on and the car to start

Marc, check the pinouts on the TPS, I may have had an AAN TPS on my PT for V80, AAN pins out 1-3, PT is the opposite side of the connector. Swapping in a 3B/AAN TPS would be a quick fix assuming its still wired for the AAN.

HTH,

yah, Nate IM'd me this morning about that, I'll have to hit you up tomorrow for an order on a few things while I've got the tranny out to replace the rear main.

:thanks:

Post by **Marc** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:51 am

update:

got the car up on the lift on Saturday (thanks Myke!)

Got the tranny out with Dennis's help (thanks!)

around the time the tranny came out, Dennis was working on test-firing his waste oil burner (which is why that photo looks a bit smokey... the garage really filled up with quite a bit of smoke. Enough smoke in fact that the fire departmetn paid a visit :-o

rear main seal put up a good fight, but I won in the end :-D

engine in 'test fire' mode. I wanted to make sure ^2 that the new rear main wasn't gonna leak before I buttoned up the tranny.. so I rigged up the starter bolts to be able to crank over the motor without the trans in place. No leaks, w00t!

So I finished up the tranny job on Sunday.

Biggest thanks of all to Haydn (timmy) for helping me out AGAIN by towing the car back home for me along with the majority of my tools and equipment, I owe you huge buddy, thanks!

Looking forward to getting into some road tuning on this beastie 8-)

Oh and Nate, you were right on, I ended up re-pinning the TPS for pins 4, 5, and 6 instead of the AAN pins on 1,2, and 3.

3bAudios · Post by **3bAudios** » Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:57 am

glad you got it all sorted out, if you ever need someone to ride around with ya to get it tuned in LMK....i loved driving around tuning my old project.......i like tuning

WAUG0806 · Post by **WAUG0806** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:49 pm

:bump:

Post by **Marc** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:05 pm

update due, ja!

been busy with other projects, but I have the aim dash hooked up to power and ground, waiting on some pins from 034 to get the CAN wiring hooked up.

Tried to install an S6 clutch slave cylinder to replace the suicidal CQ slave, turns out while the slave body is the same, the rod is slightly different. Got a new slave from Chris @ force5, haven't had a chance to install it yet.

In the mean time, I've installed a power steering cooler (you know, with that copious amount of free space I have in the front end of the car :roll:

so ya, pics coming soon, should have the car ready for street tuning shortly :-D

owdlvr · Post by **owdlvr** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:21 pm

Hey Marc,

Looking good! Weird, the interior of my 1134 muffler does not look like that...Wonder if Doug's do?

-Dave

Post by **Marc** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:24 pm

update on the clutch slave saga..

with everything installed the clutch pedal is hard as a rock, no pedal travel at all.

This is not good.

I'm wondering if something in the throwout arm mechanism became dislodged during the install. I'm trying to get my digital camera in there so I can see what the problem might be. REALLY not too excited about pulling this tranny (again) :x

Derracuda · Post by **Derracuda** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 8:26 pm

pull the slave and have myke push on the throwout arm with his finger to see if the arm is moving properly

PRA4WX · Post by **PRA4WX** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:36 pm

Installed one on my urs4 one time that exhibited the same characteristics, and as it turned out the slave arm hadn't seated properly in the "cup" (scientific technical name for it! 8) ) and was, of course jamming. Good luck! :(

Toxcheap · Post by **Toxcheap** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:20 pm

derracuda wrote:pull the slave and have myke push on the throwout arm with his finger to see if the arm is moving properly

Can't help him, the cars 40 miles away now.

Berserker · Post by **Berserker** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:35 pm

PRA4WX wrote:Installed one on my urs4 one time that exhibited the same characteristics, and as it turned out the slave arm hadn't seated properly in the "cup" (scientific technical name for it! 8) ) and was, of course jamming. Good luck! :(

:stupid:

I broke a clutch pedal that day. Don't push too hard!

Post by **HT Motorsport** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:13 pm

Hey Mark, UNless you are a superhero I dont think you ill be able to budge the arm manually. Try checking teh slave out of the car and then put it back in and try it again JIC.

The clutch figners etc are mega hard...

H

Derracuda · Post by **Derracuda** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:53 pm

hehe, i was joking guys

Post by **Marc** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:35 pm

Haydn and Nate (the fellow that bought Haydn's 200) stopped by today for a second opinion on my clutch dilema (and to kick tires :cheers:).

I used Haydn's bullet cam to do a little lathroscopic exploratory surgery to see WTF was going on inside my tranny.

From the looks of it, we think the lower end of the clutch release fork is off its ball mounting, allowing it to be pushed too far away from the slave up top. Haydn put up a lil' video here:

http://homepage.mac.com/haydntaylor/iMovieTheater5.html

and here:

http://homepage.mac.com/haydntaylor/iMovieTheater6.html

Haydn mentioned why not just drill an access plug into the bottom of the tranny? Starting to sound like an attractive option.. plus the tig welder is right there to weld the plug back in

Post by **HT Motorsport** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:20 pm

or you could buy a boroscope to check from the top, that would be favorite as I will probably need one some time

(sorry could help it Mark) -

H

JShadzi · Post by **JShadzi** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:25 pm

timmmy wrote: a boroscope

I've got one if you want to borrow it 8)

kday · Post by **kday** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:09 pm

A borrowscope?

Post by **Marc** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:20 pm

kday wrote:A borrowscope?

nyuk nyuk

Back to the kind offer from Mr. Shadzi, we should talk about that thar 'borrowscope'

Derracuda · Post by **Derracuda** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:54 am

i drilled a hole in the bottom of my 4kq's 016 and left it open, had no problems. but you could just find a plug first and then a hole saw the appropriate size 8)

WAUG0806 · Post by **WAUG0806** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:32 am

Maybe you local proctologist has an "investigative device" that would work???

Derracuda · Post by **Derracuda** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:00 am

the only proctologist worth seeing is one who drives a ford probe... then you know he means business