Derracuda's 83' YOU ARE QUATTRO!!!!

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Or just get the Divx encoder (divx.com)...It's a free download.
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Sorry for me being a tard and confused. You said it was an MC engine in there? I *thought* all were oil/water cooled turbo motors? :tard:
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do me a favor and fix that saggy moooofla!!
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Post by birdmanmt »

derracuda wrote:it's got an oil cooled turbo. i looked when it was up on the hoist


doncha mean oil lubricated? :wink:
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Yess, but, in my tired and sleepy daze, my alter ego typed that :D.

Im probably wrong, but that just was a curious thought.
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Post by derracuda »

birdmanmt wrote:
derracuda wrote:it's got an oil cooled turbo. i looked when it was up on the hoist


doncha mean oil lubricated? :wink:


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My alter ego posted that :tard: . But yes, I meant oil lubricated and water cooled.

I thought all MC's were that way? Excuse my newb'ness
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Post by Katman »

But yes, I meant oil lubricated and water cooled.

I thought all MC's were that way


Mike: I think al MC motors are that way, but the 'proper' or original motor in the urq had no water going to the turbo..

( I think that's what they're trying to say..?)
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Post by 84urq20v »

So Derek - if this car has an MC in it but no water jacketed turbo - is the water nipple freeze plug just plugged. I don't see why a person would go to the trouble of putting an MC in and not use the water jacketed turbo. Are you sure its an MC? I dont' think casting numbers alone will tell you - maybe you've seen other MC evidence such as the ECU .....

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84urq20v wrote:So Derek - if this car has an MC in it but no water jacketed turbo - is the water nipple freeze plug just plugged. I don't see why a person would go to the trouble of putting an MC in and not use the water jacketed turbo. Are you sure its an MC? I dont' think casting numbers alone will tell you - maybe you've seen other MC evidence such as the ECU .....

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*Points up*, thats what I was trying to get at. Only curious!
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84urq20v wrote:So Derek - if this car has an MC in it but no water jacketed turbo - is the water nipple freeze plug just plugged. I don't see why a person would go to the trouble of putting an MC in and not use the water jacketed turbo. Are you sure its an MC? I dont' think casting numbers alone will tell you - maybe you've seen other MC evidence such as the ECU .....

Brandon


The WX had a K26 fitted, the MC had a K24, regardless of watercooled or not I would chose the K26 over a K24 anyday.
Which in itself is a joke as how could such a small passage provide any cooling to the turbo while running, the water passage is only there to protect the bearings once the engine has been shutoff and provided the after run circuit is fully functional will it be of any benefit!
Simply adopting what race drivers do and taking the last mile of a journey at a more sedate pace, allowing the turbo to spool down, and waiting for a minute once at your destination will greatly improve the reliability of an oil cooled turbo. Also good practice on any turbo tbh.
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Post by derracuda »

i didn't look for the water nipple when i had i up on the hoist as i didn't know the block was an MC at the time. i did see the MC on the block, i know how that works ;). as for the management system, i'm not sure as i didn't pull the ecu, but it has the old round coil and no knock snsor, so i figured it was whatever stock system. plus the air temp sensor gave me the 4k rpm cutout and i cleaned the terminals on it and it went away.
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Post by cuatrokoop »

Corey, my MC came with a oil/water K26, as did all of the early MC's.
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the older k26's, 84 and older were oil only.
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MC's over here only ever saw the K24, so I'll retract my above statement and stand in the corner :slap:
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Post by ralleyquattro »

Corey wrote:MC's over here only ever saw the K24, so I'll retract my above statement and stand in the corner :slap:


You must have seen the MC II.. later MCs with higher compression and dual knock sensors that came on 1989 200 quattros.. those had MAC14 controlling them as well.
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Post by Corey »

We had both I and II but the MC engine was only fitted in the last of the line 100
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Post by dets »

How many of the UR coupe's were quattro?



Great find derek.
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Post by audibeans »

Corey wrote:We had both I and II but the MC engine was only fitted in the last of the line 100

Yes, the MCI, I swapped into my 4kq, has an oil/water cooled k26 turbo in it...that's why I bought it. I think the 87 MCI went with the k24's, but I could be wrong.....
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Post by derracuda »

in the states the k24 didn't come out until late 90 or early 91 i believe. i have one on my MC1 from a 91' 20vt.
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Post by cuatrokoop »

Part way through MY1989 was the supposed change-over. Anything after that Hans und Franz found a left-over or it was changed at some point.
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dets wrote:How many of the UR coupe's were quattro?


All ur's are quattro, you having a laugh or what? :slap:

In total 11,500 ish where made over the 11 year period.
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Corey wrote:
dets wrote:How many of the UR coupe's were quattro?


All ur's are quattro, you having a laugh or what? :slap:

In total 11,500 ish where made over the 11 year period.



duhh! i meant coupe's really as i've only seen GT's pop up for sale. My friend was looking for a ur q for a long time and found nothing. Just wondering how many of them are still around in the states and what their normal asking prices are.


Thanks for the info Corey.
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Post by Corey »

Ok but when someone says ur (meaning original in German) it only relates to THE quattro, everything else is an imitation (flame suit on).
The coupes I couldn't tell you numbers to be honest but we have stacks of them over here for not a lot of money.
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derracuda wrote: from a 91' 20vt.


that's kinda funny... :P
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