Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 636whp 07k
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Wicked. Bookmarked for future posterity.
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Only way it can fail is if the flow meter fails. Definitely a nice setup and something I'd consider in my RENNWGN for higher boost on the street over e85 with all of its unknown variables.
-Chris
'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
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'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
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'12 X3
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Wow, that is not a lot of timing in boost.
Interesting way to set it up! I'll have to look into that more
Interesting way to set it up! I'll have to look into that more
Matt
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Exactly why I think my compression ratio is higher than expected.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
what kind of egts are you seeing with that ign map?
surely you can more aggressively add a few degrees in after the TQ peak- no?
surely you can more aggressively add a few degrees in after the TQ peak- no?
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
20 pulls on the dyno says no. EGTs are around 1500 at the exhaust port
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Yeah that's crazy. You must have wound up significantly higher.
Matt
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Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Just got back from the track, the car ran pretty well for its first time out. The only drama was the hose that came off the water pump outlet and made riverside into an ice rink. I also have some sort of wastegate issue that was only allowing 6psi of boost.
But holy crap does the car handle well. The weight reduction up front surprised me a few times because it turns in much faster now. This is also the first real test of the custom koni shocks I put Ina year ago. The tires backed up what I was seeing as well, they all rose in psi at about the same rate. Not like before where it was only the fronts spiking in temperature and pressure.
It was kinda fun driving around with no power, you really get to work in driving instead of managing the car.
But holy crap does the car handle well. The weight reduction up front surprised me a few times because it turns in much faster now. This is also the first real test of the custom koni shocks I put Ina year ago. The tires backed up what I was seeing as well, they all rose in psi at about the same rate. Not like before where it was only the fronts spiking in temperature and pressure.
It was kinda fun driving around with no power, you really get to work in driving instead of managing the car.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Wicked report. Must be a lot of fun. Probably a good thing you're back to a momentum car and can learn the new dynamics. Then when the power is back up to where you're used to it being (and beyond) you'll have the new handling characteristics down pat.
Any track videos?
Any track videos?
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
I had two students, the car to deal with and a head cold. I didn't have time to mess with videos unfortunately.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
what were you guys using to listen for knock?- Attachments
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- 6psi vids are okay but vids at high boost are best. I likes the traction loss when things get boosty.
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Plug the knock sensor into a small amplifier or your computer, and listen with good headphones. Swanson makes a nice cable. I use ear buds underneath ear muffs.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
knock phones are so cool. Makes me wish i had a gasser on standalone again to play with them.
current:
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
-mk4 tdi wagon with some mods
-TDI b3 90q, holset turbo, be strong little connecting rods!
-the turbo tractor
past:
-11 second 90q junker
-20vt swapped 90q winter beater
-efi 20vt 4kq
-way too many other long gone urs's, 200's 4000's, b5's
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
As always Jim, I'm over here drooling over your car. I need that kind of power/response in Oceanic.
-Ben-

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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Yeah man! You getting the itch? The car has been on ramps for the past few week, had to fine tune a few things I discovered at the track. The biggest was tracking down the boost leak, that's fixed. I also upgraded the coolant hose coming from the electric water pump and used t-bolt clamps on it. The pump has three beads on it and no flat clamping surface so the crappy universal bendy hose I had on there and a single clamp wasn't up to the task. It softened up and blew off on track. Finally the turbine housing is getting re-coated, everything bubbled off because they didn't bake it first and applied the coating too thick. I am using a new place I heard about by a guy walking his dog, lol.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
I avoid Jim's thread at all cost. Wait. Why am I here?
Darin
1989 80 20vt
1989 80 20vt
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Talking about knock phones.
has anybody ever tried something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-103 ... B004U4A5RU
Headphones and noise cancelling phones combined.
has anybody ever tried something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-103 ... B004U4A5RU
Headphones and noise cancelling phones combined.
-Phil
87 5ktq - 20vt
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87 5ktq - 20vt
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05 S4 - Gone and very much so forgotten
14 TDI Touareg
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
audifreakjim wrote:Yeah man! You getting the itch?
Bad. Very bad. I've got some serious work ahead of me on the car. Keep up the good work Jim! I can't wait to see it again!
-Ben-

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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
You have the power, just need a qsv!
Matt
18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
11 Jetta sedan TDI DSG, rear muffler delete
GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

18 Silverado 1500 work pig, roof rack and tonneau cover
11 Jetta sedan TDI DSG, rear muffler delete
GONE :( 87 4ktq - 4 FOX SNAKES

Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
chaloux wrote:You have the power, just need a qsv!
I'm actually going to be ditching this turbo for something a little more.... modern.

-Ben-

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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
It's still a great bang for the buck. Honestly Ben, if I had access to e85, I would have probably not done the 07k. A smaller efr turbo and e85 goes a long way!
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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Ok I probably still would have done the swap, who am I kidding 

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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
audifreakjim wrote:Ok I probably still would have done the swap, who am I kidding
Yea, really.
Greg W.
Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
audifreakjim wrote:Ok I probably still would have done the swap, who am I kidding
Just the front end weight reduction makes it worth it right?
But seriously, I won't be going 07k for a long time, I want to maximize my 20v stuff first, then go from there. I still have a lot of potential I'm leaving on the table.-Ben-

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Re: Jim Green's 90q 20vt - 600whp 07k build
Would it really be worth it to you Ben? We should have a thread that quantifies and compiles the real advantages of running an 07K. I don't think it is worth the effort if you already have a 20vt car and aren't going to utilize the weight and weight distribution advantages in a meaningful way. So the det ceiling is higher... how much? Is that worth it? I'm really asking here because I don't know for sure so don't go getting offended, you 07k guys 

-Chris
'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
E34 530i (maybe rear-mount soon)
'91 Audi 200 20v - Revver/BAT project
'91 Audi 200 20v Avant
'01 Anthracite M5
'90 M3
'85 Euro 635csi
'12 X3
E34 530i (maybe rear-mount soon)